Why "proddies" don't play on the test server - Page 6

Kuulei · 05-26-2007, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mheryl

Since my post got deleted five minutes after I made it on the official forums, I'm gonna put it here.

Friend on Najena and I who both play on test regularly were discussing in the test channel ways to deal with plat spammers. Test channel, as usual, decided that the way to fix it was for us to quit playing on live because live sucks, and to move to test. It degenerated into an argument, although a mild one compared to live, believe me.

SOE, I know you read this forum.. if you want live players on test, then get rid of the elitist testers that you know you have on test. They're supposed to be testing content that makes it to live. They're not able to do that job, because they don't play the way we do. They don't use the broker system for the most part. They don't raid for the most part. They don't do the usual things the way the live servers do, and they will be the first to tell you they LIKE it that way and have no intention of changing the way THEIR server works.

I'm sick of it. Log to follow, if it's not too big, log to follow in a few minutes if it is and i have to edit it yet again.

I won't copy the rambling paste of your log, but anyone that can fog a mirror would have realized that it was a 27 minute rant about plat farmers and spammers in the 'Test Server' channel. Whats even stranger, is the exact same topic started yet AGAIN from live players, in the Test channel yesterday (05/25/07). Then when I inquired why live server woes had to be hashed out in Test channel, yet again, I was bombarded with rude remarks on how I should level and go do some raid content. When I remarked I was raiding in Deathtoll, I was berated for not being in a 'rea'l raid zone.

I like live servers, I have played on live servers, being there when some of the "firsts" happened in EQ1 from my first server, Mithaniel Marr. I prefer test servers because I feel like I am making the game better for everyone. Bugs are not all about the raid zones, we need people to test at all levels. We'll get there eventually. I took a year off to play on Combine server, but now I am back on EQ2 Test (70 warden). Keep the chat 'Test' related (enough with your plat farmers and the same discussion day in and day out about what you think SoE should do to make 'live' servers better to rid you of these spammers), don't knock our abilities and I'll defend anyone from being called a 'Proddie'.

The Broker isn't used much, we barter for goods and services or just plain give it away to those in need. We even hold a 'meet and greet' once a month where players of all levels bring tradeskill books, adepts, masters, gear (dropped or crafted) and COOKIES (someone always volunteers to make and pass out cookies or a QA / Dev will stop by once in a great while with some).

We are small in population which forces us to work differently than live servers in many ways. That still isn't a reason to enter the test channel and bash us (1178828847)[Thu May 10 13:27:27 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"or maybe you could go back to testing raid content.. oh wait =P you can't"

Slippery · 05-26-2007, 10:10 AM

Lets be honest, how often is shit that is being tested discussed in the test channel?

kenman · 05-26-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuulei

Then when I inquired why live server woes had to be hashed out in Test channel, yet again, I was bombarded with rude remarks on how I should level and go do some raid content. When I remarked I was raiding in Deathtoll, I was berated for not being in a 'rea'l raid zone.

I like live servers, I have played on live servers, being there when some of the "firsts" happened in EQ1 from my first server, Mithaniel Marr. I prefer test servers because I feel like I am making the game better for everyone. Bugs are not all about the raid zones, we need people to test at all levels. We'll get there eventually.

You're raiding zones an entire expansion late, how exactly does that help make the game better? You're apparently testing content after live players already have ran it dozens of times, getting there "eventually" does crap.

Test is just a crappy small community that opts to experience content after all the live players have tested it for them, the game would be so much better if they just wiped it and allowed copies from live servers.

Mheryl · 05-26-2007, 12:34 PM

Wasn't me that started the trouble last night, not sure why you came here bashing me today after all this time, but if it made you feel better, then I'm glad.

You can't raid EOF content. I talk to some of the folks in your raid guild, even used to give them tips on how to beat raids so that you could progress faster and get to the higher zones to test. Bet they didn't tell you that tho, did they?

I am there, on test, trying to make a difference just like you. My main server is on live, but I test when I can and do a damned good job of it. When the guy popped up last night with his accusations, I told him to get his ass over there and test like the bunch we brought over from live a few weeks ago. Lucky piped up too, ask him if you were confused about who was starting crap.

And as for the topic of chat, the plat sellers. It is a HUGE problem that affects ALL of us. I pay for the game just like you do, and where I choose to have a pertinent conversation is not for you to say. I don't violate the EULA, don't mention names of companies, just try to come up with a solution to a problem that you on the test server don't (yet) see, know the woes of, or seem to even care about.

ZeyGnome · 05-26-2007, 12:59 PM

The the best solution here would be to make Test a server channel and remove the ability to join it from other servers (Like Qeynos_Crafting, etc.) That way you won't have to 'choose' to have your non-test related chat on a channel that it is inappropriate for.

Test channel chat is not the 'OMG SoE Suxxors!' channel that you are making it now.

Nothing can be done about plat spammers via the Test server, so it's a pointless bitch session.

And Mheryl, the reason you probably got tagged for this is because you are the one who stirred up the shit against your 'friends' on Test which led to the current antagonistic attitude towards the people of Test.

I applaud your Raiders guild building and agree it is needed and they are welcome like everyone else on Test, what I don't agree about is the method you used to get it started and the ramifications of that decision you made to crap on the people who called you friend.

If your guild makes it to the raid level you want and is able to test raids effectively, then great, but in the meantime, find a different way to recruit than dogging the Test server populace.

Edit: And I am not thin-skinned. I don't give a fuck about people like kenman who comment about test. I do care when someone I once respected and thought of as a friend does. That goes for several of the posters on this thread, not just Mheryl.

Mheryl · 05-26-2007, 03:02 PM

No idea who you are ZeyGnome, you didn't post a name.

As for bashing my friends on the test server, I didn't do that. I dunno how many times I'll have to repeat this, but here we go again. When I made the post, I was angry at what Kylie said. There are a few who also tend to respond as she did, and those are the people I was calling elitist. Not the entire server, and certainly not the people I talk to and goof off with on a regular basis. Kylie and I have since talked and worked it out, wish the rest of you who have a problem with the post would do the same. At least read your own server forums for goodness sake, I copied the apology and explanation I made here to there so you all would see it even without coming here.

As for the way I did it, I like my conversations out in public. That way there's no petty 'He said, she said, they did, I said, I did" bullshit. You don't have to like it or agree with it. You don't have to like me, or anything I say. Doesn't change what is. And it got people talking, it got people testing, and it got people on the test server, something you guys haven't managed to do yet. So I won't say I'm sorry for that.

ZeyGnome · 05-26-2007, 03:21 PM

2 lines of 'Oh, I didn't really mean it the way it sounded' then 4 paragraphs of how we don't do things the way you would like them to be done and what we don't do is not an apology.

I'm glad you and Kylie made up, my opinion of you stands. You're not sorry at all for the shit you created, you just want to justify it because you won't admit what you did was wrong.

Mheryl · 05-26-2007, 03:28 PM

I always admit when I'm wrong. I wasn't wrong.

Rommie · 05-26-2007, 05:45 PM

I wasn't wrong with what I said either - and it cost me respect inside my own guild, the only people I give a rat's ass what they think of me.

And, right or wrong, Mheryl's been the catalyst for some positive improvements to the Test Server. I'll take that 10 times out of 10 over the old status quo.
But if you want to force LFG to make a Test Server Flame board, be my guest.

Brega · 05-27-2007, 06:05 AM

Rommie spewed: "But if you want to force LFG to make a Test Server Flame board, be my guest"

By God Rom, that is a damn good idea. It would serve a few rather noble purposes really.

People would have a convienent place to stop and bitch, without needing to slug through other meaningless diatribes. Althugh the class forums here do have some damn good info.

You could have a group of friends that will love you and hug you and treat you like the bestest most special person you are.

And most importantly, it would be a meeting place for all the people who like to complain to stop and have a fulfilling circle jerk while rubbing one out to just how uber they are.

We are working with what we have. And we keep on trying no matter what people like Kenman or Coyote say or tell people. The sheer hypocracy of people on this board just floors me at times. We are trying to help and we get bashed for it. And as much as I disliked Mheryls original comments at least she and Raiders are giving it a shot. So kudos to them for that. We raid every fri and sat night starting at 8 pm central. And anyone is welcome.

Brega - 70 Ranger, Test Server