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Old 05-10-2007, 06:06 PM  
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Default Why "proddies" don't play on the test server

Since my post got deleted five minutes after I made it on the official forums, I'm gonna put it here.

Friend on Najena and I who both play on test regularly were discussing in the test channel ways to deal with plat spammers. Test channel, as usual, decided that the way to fix it was for us to quit playing on live because live sucks, and to move to test. It degenerated into an argument, although a mild one compared to live, believe me.

SOE, I know you read this forum.. if you want live players on test, then get rid of the elitist testers that you know you have on test. They're supposed to be testing content that makes it to live. They're not able to do that job, because they don't play the way we do. They don't use the broker system for the most part. They don't raid for the most part. They don't do the usual things the way the live servers do, and they will be the first to tell you they LIKE it that way and have no intention of changing the way THEIR server works.

I'm sick of it. Log to follow, if it's not too big, log to follow in a few minutes if it is and i have to edit it yet again.
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:06 PM  
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Default Re: Why "proddies" don't play on the test server

(1178827205)[Thu May 10 13:00:05 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"wow .. new plat website gmworker.com ... sheesh .. I sure wish they could put a stop to these"
(1178827220)[Thu May 10 13:00:20 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Petsrus:Test.Petsrus\/a tells Test.test (4),"easy play here :P"
(1178827224)[Thu May 10 13:00:24 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"not a day goes by that I don't get spammed with messages about plat sellers"
(1178827226)[Thu May 10 13:00:26 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"That's not new at all. o.O"
(1178827230)[Thu May 10 13:00:30 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"I can't .. I run a guild here ;*("
(1178827240)[Thu May 10 13:00:40 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"that website was new to me"
(1178827242)[Thu May 10 13:00:42 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Vinrya:Test.Vinrya\/a tells Test.test (4),"Move guild to test?"
(1178827243)[Thu May 10 13:00:43 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Koibito:Test.Koibito\/a tells Test.test (4),"move them here"
(1178827246)[Thu May 10 13:00:46 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Evileschia:Test.Evileschia\/a tells Test.test (4),"i even get in game mail from them"
(1178827277)[Thu May 10 13:01:17 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"what's really frustrating is I get them within seconds on 2 chars at once every time"
(1178827284)[Thu May 10 13:01:24 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"GMworker is like... THE plat seller site, at least for my live server."
(1178827294)[Thu May 10 13:01:34 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Evileschia:Test.Evileschia\/a tells Test.test (4),"its pretty sad and pathetic when they have to find some way to searching the entire servers player bas to mail each person"
(1178827300)[Thu May 10 13:01:40 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"Yeh, that's why server-wide ignore would be really nice. :/"
(1178827303)[Thu May 10 13:01:43 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"means I get to report in stereo"
(1178827319)[Thu May 10 13:01:59 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"would be nice to have an option to allow tells from friend/guild only"
(1178827328)[Thu May 10 13:02:08 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"saddly it's the only way to solve this"
(1178827332)[Thu May 10 13:02:12 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"same with emails"
(1178827345)[Thu May 10 13:02:25 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"I don't see that solving more than it creates in the way of problems."
(1178827349)[Thu May 10 13:02:29 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Evileschia:Test.Evileschia\/a tells Test.test (4),"would be nice to disalow tells from the newbie areas"
(1178827350)[Thu May 10 13:02:30 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Kaotika:Test.Kaotika\/a tells Test.test (4),"or maybe just ignore it"
(1178827369)[Thu May 10 13:02:49 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"Just make it toggleable to allow tells/mail from anyone under level 20, that'll get rid of most of it"
(1178827370)[Thu May 10 13:02:50 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Esfa:Test.Esfa\/a tells Test.test (4),"uh is there a way to set DPS modifier?"
(1178827381)[Thu May 10 13:03:01 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"The spammers will always be 1 step ahead of anything mild enough to still let legit newbies get the most out of the game."
(1178827393)[Thu May 10 13:03:13 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"that works Sarissa"
(1178827409)[Thu May 10 13:03:29 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"if they are on friends, then they can, if not the toggle keeps them from sending at all"
(1178827414)[Thu May 10 13:03:34 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"gonna feedback that"
(1178827424)[Thu May 10 13:03:44 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"And anything else will make it hard for newbies to get help from experienced players, chasing them away."
(1178827442)[Thu May 10 13:04:02 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Nailaim:Test.Nailaim\/a tells Test.test (4),"ayy"
(1178827450)[Thu May 10 13:04:10 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Nailaim:Test.Nailaim\/a tells Test.test (4),"so the morale of this story is"
(1178827454)[Thu May 10 13:04:14 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Nailaim:Test.Nailaim\/a tells Test.test (4),"play on test cus live sucks :P"
(1178827456)[Thu May 10 13:04:16 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Deathbyhangnail:Test.Deathbyhangnail\/a tells Test.test (4),"Hi :)"
(1178827457)[Thu May 10 13:04:17 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"they can still talk in channels, I make a point to stay in the newbie channels for just that reason"
(1178827485)[Thu May 10 13:04:45 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"wow .. as I'm typing my feedback I get an email .. no one I know is online here .. wonder who it's from .. another plat seller mayhaps .. esp since both my chars got the emails within a tenth of a second from each other ... grrr"
(1178827505)[Thu May 10 13:05:05 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Nailaim:Test.Nailaim\/a tells Test.test (4),"just roll here and bring ur guild with ya:P"
(1178827518)[Thu May 10 13:05:18 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"So what would stop spammers from spamming there once they're blocked from all tells, etc?"
(1178827523)[Thu May 10 13:05:23 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"if they allowed copies I know a few guilds who would come, lol"
(1178827534)[Thu May 10 13:05:34 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Spiteful:Test.Spiteful\/a tells Test.test (4),"gah!"
(1178827545)[Thu May 10 13:05:45 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Koibito:Test.Koibito\/a tells Test.test (4),"hah!"
(1178827549)[Thu May 10 13:05:49 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"nothing, but you can use the ignore feature and still report the channel spammers"
(1178827581)[Thu May 10 13:06:21 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"and they would only be in that one channel cuz they don't last long enough to level"
(1178827582)[Thu May 10 13:06:22 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"Which is what you can do now."
(1178827596)[Thu May 10 13:06:36 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"/sigh"
(1178827610)[Thu May 10 13:06:50 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Petsrus:Test.Petsrus\/a tells Test.test (4),"stopping the free trial would do it"
(1178827613)[Thu May 10 13:06:53 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"nm =) not gonna argue semantics with a test player on a live issue, lol"
(1178827615)[Thu May 10 13:06:55 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Tabrinkae:Test.Tabrinkae\/a tells Test.test (4),"hmmm are they gonna run a beta for RoK?"
(1178827619)[Thu May 10 13:06:59 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"They dont' use free trials anymore."
(1178827623)[Thu May 10 13:07:03 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"they don't get the tells from the free trial island"
(1178827627)[Thu May 10 13:07:07 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"no it wouldn't stop it .. they don't use them anymore"
(1178827628)[Thu May 10 13:07:08 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"Since free trials ARE blocked from sending tells."
(1178827630)[Thu May 10 13:07:10 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Spiteful:Test.Spiteful\/a tells Test.test (4),"they always run an expansion beta"
(1178827642)[Thu May 10 13:07:22 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Petsrus:Test.Petsrus\/a tells Test.test (4),"oh i didn't know that"
(1178827655)[Thu May 10 13:07:35 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Esfa:Test.Esfa\/a tells you,"how can I set that tpe toggle?"
(1178827657)[Thu May 10 13:07:37 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"you can see the folks that are sending the emails .. they are quite obvious .. sitting at the mailbox in a newbie village for HOURS at a time"
(1178827667)[Thu May 10 13:07:47 2007] You tell Test.Esfa,"it's not in game, we want it in game tho"
(1178827675)[Thu May 10 13:07:55 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Esfa:Test.Esfa\/a tells you,"ah ok"
(1178827692)[Thu May 10 13:08:12 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"ignoring them does no good .. they have new names constantly .. and you can't block someone from emailing either"
(1178827724)[Thu May 10 13:08:44 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Phoenyx:Test.Phoenyx\/a tells Test.test (4),"no but you can report everyone..."
(1178827737)[Thu May 10 13:08:57 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Kaotika:Test.Kaotika\/a tells Test.test (4),"how about mentally ignoring it? its not like you get more than 2 or 3 a day"
(1178827741)[Thu May 10 13:09:01 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"I do .. I report them all . with every char I log in every day .. normally 2 chars at a time"
(1178827744)[Thu May 10 13:09:04 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"it's sickening"
(1178827748)[Thu May 10 13:09:08 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"lol you don't play on live either do you Kao"
(1178827749)[Thu May 10 13:09:09 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Biteyurbreath:Test.Biteyurbreath\/a tells Test.test (4),"they make a new toon with a random jumbled name so its harder to report, and then delete it so that it can't be tracked back to them :("
(1178827755)[Thu May 10 13:09:15 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"It's... not *that* big a deal, really."
(1178827756)[Thu May 10 13:09:16 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Vinrya:Test.Vinrya\/a tells Test.test (4),"*cough*Testhasnoplatsellers*Cough*"
(1178827758)[Thu May 10 13:09:18 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"I do get more than 2 or 3 a day"
(1178827759)[Thu May 10 13:09:19 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Phoenyx:Test.Phoenyx\/a tells Test.test (4),"or we could all go on strike and threathen to cancel our accounts to get it stoped.."
(1178827765)[Thu May 10 13:09:25 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"It's not like you get an ad-free environment anywhere ELSE on the internet."
(1178827766)[Thu May 10 13:09:26 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Vinrya:Test.Vinrya\/a tells Test.test (4),"I get 0 Per day. 0 Per week.."
(1178827787)[Thu May 10 13:09:47 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"well I can not move to test to avoid spammers .. I have folks here that count on me"
(1178827805)[Thu May 10 13:10:05 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"Seriously, what can SOE do that won't severely impact the gameplay of legit new players that would 100% eradicate spam?"
(1178827808)[Thu May 10 13:10:08 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Nailaim:Test.Nailaim\/a tells Test.test (4),"bring them with ya"
(1178827814)[Thu May 10 13:10:14 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"we don't want to play full time on test, what we want is for our live experience to not be marred by people who shouldn't be here to begin with, and tougher bannings on idiots who BUY the freaking plat"
(1178827837)[Thu May 10 13:10:37 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Biteyurbreath:Test.Biteyurbreath\/a tells Test.test (4),"theres no way to track who's buying it and who's not though"
(1178827843)[Thu May 10 13:10:43 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"yes there is"
(1178827843)[Thu May 10 13:10:43 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"give me the ability to not allow emails/tells from folks under 20 not in my guild or friend list"
(1178827861)[Thu May 10 13:11:01 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Biteyurbreath:Test.Biteyurbreath\/a tells Test.test (4),"how can they track it ?"
(1178827864)[Thu May 10 13:11:04 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"omg there is soooo ways to track it"
(1178827865)[Thu May 10 13:11:05 2007] \aPC -1 Theseuss:Theseuss\/a tells Level_60-69 (5),"wiz lfg"
(1178827881)[Thu May 10 13:11:21 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"going to tell me they can't flag trades of huge amounts of plat?"
(1178827900)[Thu May 10 13:11:40 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"they have mail logs and live logs of everything that happens, they also know the accounts and people who have been reported for farming, they could see large amts of plat moving from one person to another with no valid reason "
(1178827901)[Thu May 10 13:11:41 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Biteyurbreath:Test.Biteyurbreath\/a tells Test.test (4),"no because its sent as mail attachements. one of my friends buys it all the time"
(1178827914)[Thu May 10 13:11:54 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"they can tell me what spell my warden looted 3 days later .. they can see who is getting the lump sum plat"
(1178827915)[Thu May 10 13:11:55 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"You should shoot your friend."
(1178827931)[Thu May 10 13:12:11 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"then your friend is one of the problems Bitey"
(1178827940)[Thu May 10 13:12:20 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Petsrus:Test.Petsrus\/a tells Test.test (4),"its people like THAT is why there are plat farmers, your friend is ruining the game imo"
(1178827949)[Thu May 10 13:12:29 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"folks that buy it .. are encouraging this to continue"
(1178827951)[Thu May 10 13:12:31 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Biteyurbreath:Test.Biteyurbreath\/a tells Test.test (4),"aye, but he does what he wants, its not my issue"
(1178827975)[Thu May 10 13:12:55 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"yep.. but in the meantime, all we here on live want is a way to filter out most of the problem, giving us a toggle on our email/tell issue would help a lot"
(1178827980)[Thu May 10 13:13:00 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Petsrus:Test.Petsrus\/a tells Test.test (4),"yea, i had a friend that bought plat on eq1 once...it's not like I'm going to end my friendship over that"
(1178827991)[Thu May 10 13:13:11 2007] \aPC -1 Unrest.Erronn:Unrest.Erronn\/a tells Test.test (4),"SOE encouraged plat buying when opened exchange server - I think many folks feel it's just fine now, even on other servers :/"
(1178828003)[Thu May 10 13:13:23 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"my nephew talked me into trying out WOW .. I was there for 6 months .. not once was I bothered with coin sellers .. so why is it soooo bad here?"
(1178828020)[Thu May 10 13:13:40 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Petsrus:Test.Petsrus\/a tells Test.test (4),"WoW is bad too"
(1178828024)[Thu May 10 13:13:44 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Biteyurbreath:Test.Biteyurbreath\/a tells Test.test (4),"because coin is harder to get here"
(1178828030)[Thu May 10 13:13:50 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"I'd seriously consider telling them they weren't welcome in my groups till they promised never to do that again. I can ignore the spam to a certain extent, but pro farmers really tick me off."
(1178828030)[Thu May 10 13:13:50 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"eve online allows game money selling ONLY if you trade game time cards for it"
(1178828032)[Thu May 10 13:13:52 2007] You successfully countered Emulsing.
(1178828043)[Thu May 10 13:14:03 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"anyone else gets banned, no questions asked"
(1178828045)[Thu May 10 13:14:05 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"lol... no spam in WoW?"
(1178828051)[Thu May 10 13:14:11 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Vinrya:Test.Vinrya\/a tells Test.test (4),"Lots of Spam in WoW."
(1178828055)[Thu May 10 13:14:15 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"The second you make a toon there, you get a whisper or two."
(1178828056)[Thu May 10 13:14:16 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"I got none"
(1178828057)[Thu May 10 13:14:17 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Petsrus:Test.Petsrus\/a tells Test.test (4),"aye vin"
(1178828065)[Thu May 10 13:14:25 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"It's worse than here, imo."
(1178828067)[Thu May 10 13:14:27 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"although I didn't find the game that enjoyable anyway .. hehe"
(1178828078)[Thu May 10 13:14:38 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Petsrus:Test.Petsrus\/a tells Test.test (4),"yea, i hated wow"
(1178828105)[Thu May 10 13:15:05 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"I've been playing EQ1/EQ2 since june of 1999 .... plat selling spam tells/emails has never been as bad as they are now"
(1178828119)[Thu May 10 13:15:19 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Petsrus:Test.Petsrus\/a tells Test.test (4),"yes it is getting worse and worse"
(1178828121)[Thu May 10 13:15:21 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"me too Petsrus .. but not because of spam since I got none there"
(1178828142)[Thu May 10 13:15:42 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Petsrus:Test.Petsrus\/a tells Test.test (4),"yes, I'm older and the cartoon graphics for one didn't appeal to me"
(1178828145)[Thu May 10 13:15:45 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"I think it's a symptom of *how* people play MMOs now more than anything."
(1178828172)[Thu May 10 13:16:12 2007] \aPC -1 Unrest.Erronn:Unrest.Erronn\/a tells Test.test (4),"buying plat = instant gratification"
(1178828177)[Thu May 10 13:16:17 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"Now people are less inclined ot pick one one of the two or three (since there are 10 or 12 or more anyways) and stick with it... they hop from game to game..."
(1178828178)[Thu May 10 13:16:18 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"and I hate the new petition system .. it's way to complicated and every time I do manage to get a petition to go thru I get an email asking me to verify my complaint and when I do I get told my email is wrong"
(1178828181)[Thu May 10 13:16:21 2007] \aPC -1 Unrest.Erronn:Unrest.Erronn\/a tells Test.test (4),"many impatient folks playin, lol"
(1178828184)[Thu May 10 13:16:24 2007] Critical success!
(1178828186)[Thu May 10 13:16:26 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"so I just report .. and report and report"
(1178828199)[Thu May 10 13:16:39 2007] You successfully countered Major Mis-Calculation.
(1178828201)[Thu May 10 13:16:41 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"and don't want the trouble of grinding their own funds because they don't plan to stick w/ the game for years and become part of the community."
(1178828210)[Thu May 10 13:16:50 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Xeven:Test.Xeven\/a tells Test.test (4),"Lizzie send me a tell"
(1178828218)[Thu May 10 13:16:58 2007] \aPC -1 Unrest.Erronn:Unrest.Erronn\/a tells Test.test (4),"yup"
(1178828224)[Thu May 10 13:17:04 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Dartagnan:Test.Dartagnan\/a tells Test.test (4),"i havent bothered to use petition because of that upsets me too much, rather go without my titles"
(1178828243)[Thu May 10 13:17:23 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"So the amount of spam kind of reflects the amount of buying going on."
(1178828284)[Thu May 10 13:18:04 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Koibito:Test.Koibito\/a tells Test.test (4),"heh, got tired of waiting myself. so paid 10g for aa respec to get my titles back =/"
(1178828289)[Thu May 10 13:18:09 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"I petition the farmers. It actually works rather well. 5 mins of effort for getting rid of 1-6 farmers till they buy new accounts and level them back to 70. Great tradeoff."
(1178828369)[Thu May 10 13:19:29 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Petsrus:Test.Petsrus\/a tells Test.test (4),"they aren't doing anything wrong...how do you figure you get rid of them?"
(1178828398)[Thu May 10 13:19:58 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"If they're not doing anything wrong, SOE will make sure of that."
(1178828426)[Thu May 10 13:20:26 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"On the other hand, if they're account sharing, monopolizing content, botting, training, etc, they ARE doing something wrong."
(1178828434)[Thu May 10 13:20:34 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Ahealedeon:Test.Ahealedeon\/a tells Test.test (4),"did soe give Level buffer for this new test thing?"
(1178828439)[Thu May 10 13:20:39 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Xeven:Test.Xeven\/a tells Test.test (4),"no"
(1178828441)[Thu May 10 13:20:41 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Nailaim:Test.Nailaim\/a tells Test.test (4),"nope"
(1178828446)[Thu May 10 13:20:46 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Nailaim:Test.Nailaim\/a tells Test.test (4),"enver will either"
(1178828454)[Thu May 10 13:20:54 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Xeven:Test.Xeven\/a tells Test.test (4),"They need stuff to be tested in the newbie experience"
(1178828461)[Thu May 10 13:21:01 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"And if they're using their plat in RMTs, they're doing yet more that's against the rules."
(1178828462)[Thu May 10 13:21:02 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Petsrus:Test.Petsrus\/a tells Test.test (4),"monopolizing content I don't think is in violation of the EULA"
(1178828470)[Thu May 10 13:21:10 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Deathbyhangnail:Test.Deathbyhangnail\/a tells Test.test (4),"send me $20.00 and I'll buff you up "
(1178828476)[Thu May 10 13:21:16 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"a friends account got banned a year or so ago because he bought rares off a plat farmers account, took us weeks to convince SOE that they did nothing wrong, so don't be so quick to think SOE is omnipotent"
(1178828487)[Thu May 10 13:21:27 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Deathbyhangnail:Test.Deathbyhangnail\/a tells Test.test (4),"j/k"
(1178828499)[Thu May 10 13:21:39 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"It is. You can get the PoF guys banned on just that because they monopolize the mobs needed for PoF quests."
(1178828545)[Thu May 10 13:22:25 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"You mean omniscient?"
(1178828557)[Thu May 10 13:22:37 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"no, that's not what I meant"
(1178828577)[Thu May 10 13:22:57 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Petsrus:Test.Petsrus\/a tells Test.test (4),"please use smaller words in open chat, it's been a LONG time since i was in school....thank you :p"
(1178828596)[Thu May 10 13:23:16 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"Omnipotent = having ultimate authority. Omniscient = all-seeing."
(1178828611)[Thu May 10 13:23:31 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"yes darling, thank you, again, I typed exactly what I meant"
(1178828612)[Thu May 10 13:23:32 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Nailaim:Test.Nailaim\/a tells Test.test (4),"omnidancent = Ultimate /dancer"
(1178828624)[Thu May 10 13:23:44 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Petsrus:Test.Petsrus\/a tells Test.test (4),"woot Nail :)"
(1178828657)[Thu May 10 13:24:17 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Nailaim:Test.Nailaim\/a tells Test.test (4),"=)"
(1178828716)[Thu May 10 13:25:16 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"Anyways, I'm no saying mistakes can't be made, but you can't really complain about something and sit back and do nothing if you're given the tools to do something about it."
(1178828744)[Thu May 10 13:25:44 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"I must do 50+ /reports a week"
(1178828748)[Thu May 10 13:25:48 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"easily .. hehe"
(1178828753)[Thu May 10 13:25:53 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"And reporting the pro farmers has, for me, been quite effective."
(1178828755)[Thu May 10 13:25:55 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"I do something about it every day, and get tired of having to take MY free time to report something that I should have the tools to block at will"
(1178828765)[Thu May 10 13:26:05 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Spiteful:Test.Spiteful\/a tells Test.test (4),"im sure CS appreciates that"
(1178828792)[Thu May 10 13:26:32 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"Yes, well, there's only so much SOE can do about *spam*."
(1178828795)[Thu May 10 13:26:35 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"if they would allow me to block unwanted spam then I wouldn't have to /report them"
(1178828797)[Thu May 10 13:26:37 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"maybe they should start giving out free game time for reports sent"
(1178828824)[Thu May 10 13:27:04 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Kylie:Test.Kylie\/a tells Test.test (4),"or maybe all the prods could have a little whinefest in ts"
(1178828847)[Thu May 10 13:27:27 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"or maybe you could go back to testing raid content.. oh wait =P you can't"
(1178828853)[Thu May 10 13:27:33 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Petsrus:Test.Petsrus\/a tells Test.test (4),"I really think that SOE should sue the online plat sellers....plat belongs to SOE"
(1178828854)[Thu May 10 13:27:34 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Esfa:Test.Esfa\/a tells you,"ah but then would be many false reports :("
(1178828855)[Thu May 10 13:27:35 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"bye test channel"
(1178828860)[Thu May 10 13:27:40 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Kylie:Test.Kylie\/a tells Test.test (4),"bye )"
(1178828862)[Thu May 10 13:27:42 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Petsrus:Test.Petsrus\/a tells Test.test (4),"bye"
(1178828869)[Thu May 10 13:27:49 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Esfa:Test.Esfa\/a tells Test.test (4),"bye"
(1178828872)[Thu May 10 13:27:52 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Vinrya:Test.Vinrya\/a tells Test.test (4),"I don't think that was Warranted..But Okay.."
(1178828878)[Thu May 10 13:27:58 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells you,"you shouldn't leave the chan"
(1178828882)[Thu May 10 13:28:02 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Spiteful:Test.Spiteful\/a tells Test.test (4),"kylie be nice"
(1178828885)[Thu May 10 13:28:05 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Esfa:Test.Esfa\/a tells Test.test (4),"?"
(1178828890)[Thu May 10 13:28:10 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Nailaim:Test.Nailaim\/a tells Test.test (4),"i missed all that stuff to lazy to read all that lold"
(1178828899)[Thu May 10 13:28:19 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Nailaim:Test.Nailaim\/a tells Test.test (4),"so can someone summarize it in 5-6 words please?"
(1178828906)[Thu May 10 13:28:26 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"I think I'll just send that log of Kylie to scott, just so he knows why proddies don't come to test"
(1178828911)[Thu May 10 13:28:31 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Spiteful:Test.Spiteful\/a tells Test.test (4),"plat sellers bad/report good"
(1178828918)[Thu May 10 13:28:38 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Batfink:Test.Batfink\/a tells Test.test (4),"blah blah blah basically :p"
(1178828920)[Thu May 10 13:28:40 2007] \aPC -1 Najena.Lizziebeth:Najena.Lizziebeth\/a tells Test.test (4),"we're sick of spammers .. and want some control over who can send us tells/emails"
(1178828927)[Thu May 10 13:28:47 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Nailaim:Test.Nailaim\/a tells Test.test (4),"k lol"
(1178828934)[Thu May 10 13:28:54 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"So our sub fees would be better used in paying for massive international lawsuits? >.<"
(1178828947)[Thu May 10 13:29:07 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Luminesse:Test.Luminesse\/a tells Test.test (4),"I'd rather have new content on a timely schedule, but okay."
(1178828954)[Thu May 10 13:29:14 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Kylie:Test.Kylie\/a tells Test.test (4),"i dont mind complaints but i got the point after the first couple lines"
(1178828969)[Thu May 10 13:29:29 2007] You tell Test.test (4),"good for you Goddess.. some others didn't"
(1178828974)[Thu May 10 13:29:34 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Petsrus:Test.Petsrus\/a tells Test.test (4),"yea, I know Kylie...this is getting old quick"
(1178828983)[Thu May 10 13:29:43 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Vinrya:Test.Vinrya\/a tells Test.test (4),"Honestly, The Only thing I can say that'll help that is A lot of reports/petitions, and the possibility of that working is very small. But Moving to test fixes the problem for you as a player. Not as a whole. It's really not going to"
(1178828984)[Thu May 10 13:29:44 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Xeven:Test.Xeven\/a tells Test.test (4),"yep"
(1178828988)[Thu May 10 13:29:48 2007] It will take about 5 more seconds to prepare your camp.
(1178828990)[Thu May 10 13:29:50 2007] \aPC -1 Test.Vinrya:Test.Vinrya\/a tells Test.test (4),"Help you by telling us."

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Old 05-10-2007, 06:11 PM  
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Default Re: Why "proddies" don't play on the test server

I agree on the state of the test server. It's dominated by know it all's who don't do much outside of noob content, but then act like channel Nazis. Makes the test server very unpleasant - the culture on Test should be flushed.
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:29 PM  
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Default Re: Why "proddies" don't play on the test server

haha yea i rolled a toon on test once back right before DoF too test the char changes too paladins and rangers that were going in (big ones that i was rather worried about), and i just couldnt stand the people there. i ended up just giving up on it and waiting till i got into DoF beta too test things out. they act like they're gods of the game, and blame all the "issues" in the game on live players bitching about all the "gread ideas" they get added too the game. LTP n00bz
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Default Re: Why "proddies" don't play on the test server

I noticed the test server kids are sort of stuck up. Albeit, I don't log in there unless there is content I wanna check out, but it doesn't do much for encouraging people to play there when it can get so hostile.
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Old 05-10-2007, 08:43 PM  
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Default Re: Why "proddies" don't play on the test server

they should offer transfers to test. just remove our plat or something when we xfer. I would love to be able to test stuff but dont feel the need to level a character again.
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Old 05-10-2007, 08:50 PM  
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Default Re: Why "proddies" don't play on the test server

I've been playing quite a bit on test the past two months (even before the whole Arasai announcement) and it has been quite an eye opener. I whole heartedly agree with the original poster. I have a list of issues with the test server.

One of the largest issues I have is one the OP brought up, that being the Test server community is very elitist. This is NOT an enviroment that is productive to the enviroment you try to advertise for you test server. It is so far from a Live server and if you even suggest it should change you are the Devil incarnate. It is their server and they like it the way it is. Guess what? It is supposed to be the test server... Ya know, the server that replicates Live servers to test content? What replication of it is a Live server? There is no economy, there is nothing even remotely to the quality of gear and spells on players on test that there is on live, and to be honest (not to insult any though I'm sure some will take it as such) the test server community just doesn't understand the game or its mechanics. Not only that, there is zero communication between test and live servers. There is no raiding on test (I'm sorry, raiding Labs and still not clearing when we are 6 months into the next expansion and pick up raids on live servers do more zones than that) is not raiding by any stretch of the immagination. There is no supply of gear on test to choose from, there is no way to make money (if you actually try to sell something for much more than it vendors you are a price gouger and should be shunned). There is no accurate test of high end content because the people test drool over gear you could give away for free on live (literally no exageration).

That isn't to say everyone on test isn't great and nice people, because most of them are, but that doesn't make that enviroment the right enviroment to test content.

I could say some more shit right here but while it would be true it would just stir up a lot of shit, and consequently I want to be part of the solution not the problem. Hence I'm trying to level up characters on test (oh yea, no population and having to solo to level ftl). I'm still going to particpate and try to bridge the severe communication gap, but there is only so much one person can do, especially when I will never dream of giving up a live server to play exclusively in this dump that doesn't reflect the game at all.

I'm sure I've got more to say but it is raid time.
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they should offer transfers to test. just remove our plat or something when we xfer. I would love to be able to test stuff but dont feel the need to level a character again.
If you ever need any plat on Test, just let me know lol, I have a good bit there.

Problem is, there is squat to spend it on. There is virtually nothing on the broker.

Try starting up an alt there and even buying app IV's, it just aint gonna happen for a large number of classes.
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Default Re: Why "proddies" don't play on the test server

Hi.

Trying to "play seriously" on the TEST server is like getting pissed when Corky runs the wrong way down the track at the Special Olympics.

Sure, it looks real, and there are tracks and hurdles and medals...but..

...it's full of retards.
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Hi.

Trying to "play seriously" on the TEST server is like getting pissed when Corky runs the wrong way down the track at the Special Olympics.

Sure, it looks real, and there are tracks and hurdles and medals...but..

...it's full of retards.
Dude..what are you talking bout? We get that on Kithicor when you and Brok are in same group.
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