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View Poll Results: Do YOU have two similar characters like me?
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05-29-2007, 03:56 PM
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Newcastle United
Character: RL
Guild: ESPM United FC
Server: The Gym
Posts: 215
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Re: Two Mains? Does that make sense?
I'll need to really look into this some more on a single box... though my main is a Monk and I'm trying to level a Brig so not sure how that'll work... oh wait Monk healers FTW!
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05-29-2007, 06:21 PM
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Regular
Server: Faydark
Posts: 450
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Re: Two Mains? Does that make sense?
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Originally Posted by Grrrrrrrrl
Seagate ftl go western digital
Almost any site you look for that compaires hard drives most seagate will not show your seek time.. after a few days of searching I found out why...
14mS!!!!!1
Hitachi or WD is better and compairably priced and the seek time on the similar HD is 8s <
its ok to be picky!
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It's also ok to be misinformed, but don't push it out as if what you are saying is fact. Try reading a review that actually tests access times instead of copying seek time information from manufacturer's ads. Seek time is only one aspect of quite a few that determine the overall performance of a disk. Looking at 8ms on a spec sheet and jizzing your pants doesn't mean the drive is is a meaningfully better performer than one rated at 11ms; anyone would be hard pressed to be able to tell the difference between cheap consumer desktop disks in actual usage.
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05-29-2007, 06:23 PM
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Fucking SICK of spell resists
Character: Aleraku/Alaedraa
Server: Blackburrow
Posts: 8,102
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Re: Two Mains? Does that make sense?
Now it's your turn to tell us what there is besides seek time, transfer rate, bus, rotation speed, and cache size that can tell us about HD performance. Because those are all listed on the box. Maybe you mean a full source code analysis of the firmware?
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80/140 Wizard, 80/140 Illusionist, 80/140 Warden, 80/128 Troubador, etc.

HA HA Fuck you, Roger. And don't vote for Obama.
Last edited by Illuminator; 05-29-2007 at 06:24 PM.
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05-29-2007, 06:36 PM
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L337 Poster
Character: Morara
Guild: Guild of Guildiness +5
Server: Oobag
Posts: 5,009
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Re: Two Mains? Does that make sense?
Seagate sacrifices speed for reliability. That's why SMC, Sun, and other storage array manufacturers only use Seagate drives, and why people have drives from the early 90s still in use. They also have a 5 year warranty, but the 136 year MTBF on their drives put the odds of actually having to RMA a drive in your favor.
I'd rather take the minor (Yes, minor. Find a desktop application that requires seeking across the disk so often that 6ms of access time makes a noticable difference) performance drop of a Seagate drive than deal with the disgusting failure rates of Hitachi (they don't call their drives Deathstars for nothing) and WD. While both of those manufacturers have improved, they don't have a track record anywhere near as good as Seagate.
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05-29-2007, 06:53 PM
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Future AoC Addict
Character: I'm playing
Guild: Age of Conan
Server: Some PVE server
Posts: 3,401
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Re: Two Mains? Does that make sense?
Nini I know what you mean about the multi-personality thing. I also act a little different depending on which character I'm playing.
My halfling is silly, gets into trouble, has alot of "oops" moments... lol!
My half-elf is irritable, cranky, and deliciously evil... which is why she's my main again lol (hey, I know my faults!)
My high elf is gracious but stuck up.
I know people who act SO different on their toons that I never even knew they were the same person until they told me lol! Its kind of funny, but I just think of it as a bit of roleplaying. Its funny because I feel as "at home" on any of my characters, but the one that I once treasured and never imagined playing another toon has lost all its appeal to me. I can't get into that skin again.
Its another reason why alts fail for me. If i just can't get a feel for their personality, if they feel 'dead' to me, I can't play them for long, no matter how fun the character. I guess thats why I've had so many different scouts, but its just not a character I can wrap myself around. I'm more into finger wagglers, both healers and casters. Paladin is just my weird quirk, lol!
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05-29-2007, 07:04 PM
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Fucking SICK of spell resists
Character: Aleraku/Alaedraa
Server: Blackburrow
Posts: 8,102
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Re: Two Mains? Does that make sense?
My wizard "speaks as one having authority". (extra credit if you know where that's from)
My coercer just wants to drink the blood of the damned and make her enemies scream the scream of death, with no sound coming out of their mouths. Pretty sick shit.
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80/140 Wizard, 80/140 Illusionist, 80/140 Warden, 80/128 Troubador, etc.

HA HA Fuck you, Roger. And don't vote for Obama.
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05-29-2007, 07:17 PM
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Re: Two Mains? Does that make sense?
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Originally Posted by Morara
Seagate sacrifices speed for reliability. That's why SMC, Sun, and other storage array manufacturers only use Seagate drives, and why people have drives from the early 90s still in use. They also have a 5 year warranty, but the 136 year MTBF on their drives put the odds of actually having to RMA a drive in your favor.
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This is completely incorrect. Seagate does not sacrifice speed for reliability at all. And all the drives you're talking about are drives that would never be seen in a desktop computer ever. And for those drives, they don't sacrifice speed for relability, they get a cleaner clean room and make sure the drives are built more robustly, and most of them are faster than normal desktop drives too.
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Originally Posted by Bruised
I run two accounts on on PC from two separate installs. The second account has much lower graphic settings for smoother gameplay on my main account.
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Why would you install EQ2 twice, when you can run 2 or 3 from 1 install just fine?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grrrrrrrrl
Seagate ftl go western digital
Almost any site you look for that compaires hard drives most seagate will not show your seek time.. after a few days of searching I found out why...
14mS!!!!!1
Hitachi or WD is better and compairably priced and the seek time on the similar HD is 8s <
its ok to be picky!
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Uhh. I just went to WD's, Seagate's, and Hitachi's sites. The WD Cavier SE16 500GB has specs of:
Read Seek Time 8.9 ms
Write Seek Time 10.9 ms (average)
While the Seagate ST3500630AS 500GB has specs of:
Average seek, read <8.5 msec typical
Average seek, write <10.0 msec typical
Then the Hitachi Deskstar E7K500 HDS725050KLA360
Seek time, average (read, typical (ms)) 8.5
So, I guess I'm confused on how WD, Seagate, and Hitachi are any different in terms of seek times. In fact, I couldn't find any information regarding the Hitachi's typical average seek while writing. Now if you want to compare 10k drives to 7.2k drives, well obviously you're going to see the 10k drive destroy the shit out of a 7.2k drive.
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To bring us to our bended knees: And if we could only talk to you
I'm sure that we could make you see: 'Cause time has a way
Of bringing even bandmates down, down, down: Storm clouds are coming
I am bailing for some greener ground
I say I can be a big hit: Girls with Guns just can't miss
No matter what you say or do: I'm leaving 'cause of you
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05-29-2007, 07:24 PM
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L337 Poster
Character: Morara
Guild: Guild of Guildiness +5
Server: Oobag
Posts: 5,009
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Re: Two Mains? Does that make sense?
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Originally Posted by Pinski
This is completely incorrect. Seagate does not sacrifice speed for reliability at all. And all the drives you're talking about are drives that would never be seen in a desktop computer ever. And for those drives, they don't sacrifice speed for relability, they get a cleaner clean room and make sure the drives are built more robustly, and most of them are faster than normal desktop drives too.
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Are you implying that FC-AL and SCSI drives are different at the platter/head level than ATA/SATA? They're functionally the same technology. The difference is in the controller board on the bottom of the drive. They're also built in the same conditions. They don't say "Well, fuck these people. Let's use different manufacturing standards for our desktop and enterprise solutions."
More detail: http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/abo...rate_overview/
Platforming is used so all their drives can be manufactured in one factory (obviously replicating the process across multiple factories for efficiency) in one process, and then differing components across similar drives can be interchanged.
Last edited by Morara; 05-29-2007 at 07:38 PM.
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05-29-2007, 08:33 PM
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Regular
Server: Faydark
Posts: 450
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Re: Two Mains? Does that make sense?
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Originally Posted by Pinski
Why would you install EQ2 twice, when you can run 2 or 3 from 1 install just fine?
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As I already stated, it's so I can use different performance settings on each; I don't need ultra HQ setting on the account that's in the background a good portion of the time.
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