It is time to level-block mails and /tell's - Page 11

Talonis · 05-20-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Namai

It seems i am not very smart. Please tell me, using small words, and in great detail, exactly how allowing any given player to restrict tells from characters under a certian level will ruin the game?

I can tell you how it will hamper plat sellers trying to spam me, thus making my gameplay more enjoyable, somehow I dont think you will be able to tell me how the same will ruin the game.

In small words:

U have a sandy vagina B-cuz U R not able 2 ignore tells and U do not have the ballz or brain powah 2 address the real problem.

Okay, so I hope that filled your request. You guys are missing the boat here. Put in your 'fix' today, and they will find a new way to accomplish the same thing tomorrow. You are naive to think they are even targeting you at all. The spray pattern on a shotgun is pretty wide. It helps ensure you hit your target, but there are bound to be a few pieces of shot that hit something you didn't intend to shoot. You are obviously the latter. Your idea does jack shit to avoid the former.

Namai · 05-20-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Talonis

In small words:

Okay, so I hope that filled your request.

Not even in the most remote sence of the word did that answer my question.

The question was, and still is, how would this ruin the game?

As i have already said, this will not stop plat selling, nor will it totally stop spam from plat sellers.

However, it will hamper them. It will mean in order to continue this form of advertising they will need to level toons. This will take some time, since these toons are petitioned and deleted/banned every few hours. Forcing these people to waste their time leveling toons in order to advertise will then start to cost them money. Them having to spend money in this manner will cause them to pass this new cost on to the consumers, by increasing the price of plat.

Are you against an increase in the RL price of plat?

Maybe you should attempt to go back to my origional question and answer it, rather than pussyfoot around making shit up that has no meaning nor bearing on the topic at hand.

Will allowing every player in the game to select the minimum level of characters they can recieve a /tell from ruin the game?

Will it even have any negative impact on any non plat spammer/noob asking me for coin to buy a level 7 master?

Red Rock Candy · 05-20-2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Namai

It seems i am not very smart. Please tell me, using small words, and in great detail, exactly how allowing any given player to restrict tells from characters under a certian level will ruin the game?

I can tell you how it will hamper plat sellers trying to spam me, thus making my gameplay more enjoyable, somehow I dont think you will be able to tell me how the same will ruin the game.

I'm not talking about the level based tell blocking. There was talk about making master spells epic drop only, getting rid of collection quest, ect. You take all of that out and what else would there be to do for those that don't raid? I'm all for restricting tells according to level as a way to stop plat sellers, but taking out content only punishes the real players.

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

I get the generalization that you have nothing to add but a soundbite. Save it.

Eat a dick dude, you're starting to get pissy like a moody little girl.

Faabio · 05-20-2007, 10:07 PM

Guys, all you have to do is exile and you won't get anymore tells.

Jesus.

Illuminator · 05-21-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

So as was said, it doesn't fix a damn thing Illuminator. That's what Talonis said, that's what I said, and many others have said in this damn thread.

IT DOESN'T FIX THE PROBLEM.

End of story, it does not fix the problem. It hides the problem, they spam tells to get buyers. The buyers won't have those people ignored. Wait a second, what did I just say? The buyers who want to find a place to buy from won't have those people ignored! Lemme repeat it a 3rd time, if people want to buy plat and they don't know where and they get a tell, they now know where to buy from, and you're going to tell me that these people will automatically have all these lower-level people ignored?

Good morning, sir. There are two (2, II, zwei, dos) problems now. The plat selling, and the advertising /tell abuse. It is easier to fix the latter at this time, so let us first fix the latter. Shall we?

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Originally Posted by Pinski

I'd like to know who determines what level you can and cannot talk to without changing things?

Me. That person is me, of course, being that I am the one who will otherwise have to read all the tells. There is a little UI thing called an edit control combined with another thing called a slider that would let me change the filter level.

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Originally Posted by Red Rock Candy

Eat a dick dude, you're starting to get pissy like a moody little girl.

Your words are so adorably self-fulfilling.

LFG · 05-21-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

Good morning, sir. There are two (2, II, zwei, dos) problems now.

Man, you forgot my favorite two, the deuce!

Talonis · 05-21-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Namai

Not even in the most remote sence of the word did that answer my question.

The question was, and still is, how would this ruin the game?

As i have already said, this will not stop plat selling, nor will it totally stop spam from plat sellers.

However, it will hamper them. It will mean in order to continue this form of advertising they will need to level toons. This will take some time, since these toons are petitioned and deleted/banned every few hours. Forcing these people to waste their time leveling toons in order to advertise will then start to cost them money. Them having to spend money in this manner will cause them to pass this new cost on to the consumers, by increasing the price of plat.

Are you against an increase in the RL price of plat?

Maybe you should attempt to go back to my origional question and answer it, rather than pussyfoot around making shit up that has no meaning nor bearing on the topic at hand.

Will allowing every player in the game to select the minimum level of characters they can recieve a /tell from ruin the game?

Will it even have any negative impact on any non plat spammer/noob asking me for coin to buy a level 7 master?

Many people have proposed ideas to reduce the need for RMT and they have not been impletmented. So you guys expect them to agree on some kind of "if you won't do this, how about that" plan. If plat tells get you that upset, don't compromise and ask for something else that you aren't going to get. You guys are showing weakness by giving up on demanding widespread fundamental changes. They [SOE] see this weakness and will be less likely to concede (since they see you will). We need to stand our ground and address the real issues that perpetuate the need and desirability of utilizing RMT.

You can disagree all you want with the notion that blocking entire tiers of players is anti-social and anti-community. It is naive to think the developers would support introducing a game mechanic that facilitates separation of player communication based on level and the resulting isolation of legitimate players in the lower tiers, the sector of the EQ2 community SOE [obviously] holds most dearly.

It is unfortunate that plat sellers abuse this line of communication, but if you think blocking the advertising tells would remotely hinder their business, you are a fool. People that want to buy plat will find the people that sell it. No, your idea does nothing to alleviate the problem of RMT. It alleviates your emo, obsessive reaction to receiving an unwanted tell and resulting inability to go back to what you were doing without wanting to punch your monitor.

Don't concede and compromise. Demand the whole enchilada. Drive a stake through the heart of RMT. Closing the curtains does nothing to stop it.

Illuminator · 05-21-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

Me. That person is me, of course, being that I am the one who will otherwise have to read all the tells. There is a little UI thing called an edit control combined with another thing called a slider that would let me change the filter level.

I forgot to add: the setting would default to OFF. You have to opt-in. But plenty people will be happy to.