Death to RMT - Page 6

hammarus · 05-23-2007, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Talonis

With respect, please re-read my first post. Part of the idea I propose is to make the spells craftable, from a NO-TRADE component that only drops from Epic encounters. The change IS to spells. The effects on plat farming are collateral to that change. It is the easiest way to restore progression and reduce the need for the farmers. This would eventually affect other unwanted things that accompany RMT; like advertising tells, mail, and even out of game advertising.

Basically you are an elitist fuck. Who thinks what mine is mine and whats yours is mine also. Your using plat farming which is distasteful to most as a method to justify making the game more about your playstyle. And this idea of restricting masters to only epic content only reinforces that view.

Currently, masters can drop from any mob in the game. You want to go back to the reduced drop rate from the beginning of the game, fine. I would be more than happy to see that happen.

Windraa · 05-23-2007, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hammarus

Basically you are an elitist fuck. Who thinks what mine is mine and whats yours is mine also. Your using plat farming which is distasteful to most as a method to justify making the game more about your playstyle. And this idea of restricting masters to only epic content only reinforces that view.

Currently, masters can drop from any mob in the game.

Fabled items should drop off epic encounters (masters=fabled)...
I fail to see whats eliteist about that.

Edit:
Meh.. after you edited your post I'm kinda confused what you mean...
You are ok with a greatly decreased droprate.. but not ok with them only dropping off of epics?

hammarus · 05-23-2007, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Windraa

Fabled items should drop off epic encounters (masters=fabled)...
I fail to see whats eliteist about that.

Fabled items do drop off epics. Masters are fabled. There is nothing elitest about it. You are trying to connect two different things.

There is no connection between being elitest and fabled. Its the opinion of Talonis as to how they should be obtained that is elitest.

Master spells currently don't and never did only drop from epics.

Windraa · 05-23-2007, 11:47 AM

Heh.. I missunderstood you then

Illuminator · 05-23-2007, 11:57 AM

Does anyone remember the date, or close to it, when masters dropped from practically every named mob? I'm trying to find old forum posts that led up to that situation.

Rinion · 05-23-2007, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Namai

In order for this to work, raid guilds would need to stop selling no-trade loot.

There is no point in making everything no-trade if people are just going to by-pass it anyway. Its a waste of SoE's time and resources unless they also make it impossable to sell looting rights.

Until then, if your guild sells looting rights to raid dropped items, sleep well in the knowladge that you are personally contributing to the need for in game plat, thus to plat sellers, spammer, and everything this thread is trying to fight.

Except for the loot will rot by the time the person gets the plat they bought just now to buy it?

Get real who in their right mind would spend $100's of dollars on plat just to be ready IF some high end raid guild sells a no trade item?

I maintain the Vast Majority of plat is bought to purchase Master Spells. Its a win win stuation for the farmers you buy a master they farmed they have your plat and sell it to the next sucker that wants to buy a master they have farmed.

Thats the biggest money maker for them right their.

Grrrrrrrrl · 05-23-2007, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hammarus

Basically you are an elitist fuck. Who thinks what mine is mine and whats yours is mine also. Your using plat farming which is distasteful to most as a method to justify making the game more about your playstyle. And this idea of restricting masters to only epic content only reinforces that view.

Currently, masters can drop from any mob in the game. You want to go back to the reduced drop rate from the beginning of the game, fine. I would be more than happy to see that happen.

I think This is more " I think all people should be enjoying fabled gears especially since it can drop from any mob in game.." you seem pissed that end game players have access to fabled top end gear and spells and most people who think like you ( not pointing my finger AT you but making a general statement so dont flame me too bad) fit the genre of those who buy plat in order to acheive those goals..
People in the top ten guilds world wide are the ones most others look up to and strive to emulate.. lets face it the games all about quests, coin, getting experience and abilities(masters), and gear.. Why do I say gear last? its because its usually the hardest to get you HAVE to work for it. its not something you can achieve by solo grinding.. UNLESS you are grinding for your plats to buy it.. but then again you are working for it yourself and not using a 3rd party to "fund" your needs.

Talonis · 05-23-2007, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by hammarus

Basically you are an elitist fuck. Who thinks what mine is mine and whats yours is mine also. Your using plat farming which is distasteful to most as a method to justify making the game more about your playstyle. And this idea of restricting masters to only epic content only reinforces that view.

Currently, masters can drop from any mob in the game. You want to go back to the reduced drop rate from the beginning of the game, fine. I would be more than happy to see that happen.

Basically, you are the dumbest, ignorant fuck that lacks any semblance of reading comprehension. You are probably one of the idiots that makes a fortune off of selling masters to people that purchase plat. I'm not using shit. They are interconnected. Open your eyes, dipshit. They fix each other. Cause and effect. Goddamnit, get it through your thick fucking skull.

No-fucking-duh you fucking moron, I want to return to a sense of progression that makes sense and get rid of a portion of the farming cocksuckers THAT EXIST IN PART DUE TO THE FUCKUPS IN ITEMIZATION, LOOT RESTRICTIONS, AND PROGRESSION. If that makes me a bad, elitist fuck, I don't wanna be good.

Fix one, you reduce the other inherently.

Any of this sinking in?

Talonis · 05-23-2007, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hammarus

Fabled items do drop off epics. Masters are fabled. There is nothing elitest about it. You are trying to connect two different things.

There is no connection between being elitest and fabled. Its the opinion of Talonis as to how they should be obtained that is elitest.

Master spells currently don't and never did only drop from epics.

Spoken like someone that cannot raid for his master spells, therefore doesn't need them, and is probably a GMWorker frequent flyer club member. Thank you for showing us the face of the people that like broken progression and mechanics that support and encourage the RMT.

Windraa · 05-23-2007, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

Does anyone remember the date, or close to it, when masters dropped from practically every named mob? I'm trying to find old forum posts that led up to that situation.

I'm pretty sure it started when they revamp'd Solsek and CT... end of T6? It was around the same time they added the Dreadnever questline in Sol.
Atlest I remember a big influx in t2-t5 masters right after the CT revamp. The platfarmer was allso running rampant in CT, camping questmobs like there was no tomorrow.