Hate Generation in EQ2 - Page 2

Mrhappypants · 05-31-2007, 11:04 AM

Berserker - Can take aggro at any point through DPS yep
Brusier - Can take aggro through dps, but generally won't False
Guard - Likely won't take aggro through DPS true lol
Monk - Can take aggro through dps, but generally won't wrong
Pally - Won't take aggro unless they have Amends running on someone dumping a ton of hate ehh, they can but would have to be trying
SK - Won't take aggro generally unless running Deathmarch yea..
Coercer - Can take aggro if spec'd for dps, but 98% of players will not omg yes worst spike damage i ever seen
Conj - Splits aggro between it and pet, generally will never take aggro true
Illusionist - Generally will not take aggro wrong
Necro - Splits aggro between it and pet, generally will not take aggro unless using lifeburn
Warlock - Wears aggro on every pull no
Wizard - Wears aggro on every pull nah
Defiler - Can only take aggro off the pull typically (Pre-buffs) ward agro can be bad but wont pull agro
Fury - Can only take aggro off the pull (Pre-Buffs) wrong, i have seen crazy shit
Inquisitor - Can only take aggro off the pull (Pre-Buffs) wrong
Mystic - Can only take aggro off the pull (Pre-Buffs)bolster CAN draw agro mid fight
Templar - Can only take aggro off the pull (Pre-Buffs) true
Warden - Can only take aggro off the pull (Pre-Buffs)once again, ive seen it
Assassin - Has a hate transfer, can take aggro but it's not a huge issue get agro alot
Brigand - Can easily take aggro at almost any point in the fight en no not really. maybe at the start
Dirge - Can take aggro off the pull, otherwise it never happens hehe they wish they could tho
Ranger - Almost never pulls hate (At least all the rangers I know have no problems with it) one of the most common people to pull agro are rangers
Swash - Has a hate transfer, can take aggro but it's not as much of an issue tanks quite often
Troub - Can take aggro off the pull, otherwise it never happens. they wish

id say quite a few of what you have posted are not true. you might call me crazy but ive seen some wardens/furys put up sick dps... add in the healing and that is a major agro ranjers are normally top dps about 2.5-4k... they have to hold back alot even parsing 4k

Illuminator · 05-31-2007, 11:08 AM

I think I recall seeing on the official forums at one time that 10% of accumulated hate dissipates every 6 seconds.

Pinski · 05-31-2007, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

I think I recall seeing on the official forums at one time that 10% of accumulated hate dissipates every 6 seconds.

Uhh, no, that's wrong completely. What was posted was that a small portion of hate dissipates over time, but it is VERY VERY small.

Illuminator · 05-31-2007, 11:36 AM

Somebody made a post about hate that went unchallenged, I'd go digging for it but the search function is beyond useless.

Pinski · 05-31-2007, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

Somebody made a post about hate that went unchallenged, I'd go digging for it but the search function is beyond useless.

The only official post on hate was that 1 damage = 1 threat, and 1 heal < 1 threat, along with a small(10% is not small) dissipation of threat over a long(6s is not long) period of time.

Widem · 05-31-2007, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

The only official post on hate was that 1 damage = 1 threat, and 1 heal < 1 threat, along with a small(10% is not small) dissipation of threat over a long(6s is not long) period of time.

which actually brings me to a question and kinda an observation. does dying actually clear your hate? or is it just the fact you havent been doing anything for 10 sec drop u on it. b/c i see people get rezzed and grab agro almost as soon as they start doing anything again.

Illuminator · 05-31-2007, 11:42 AM

This was a different, unofficial post.

Johnathon · 05-31-2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Widem

which actually brings me to a question and kinda an observation. does dying actually clear your hate? or is it just the fact you havent been doing anything for 10 sec drop u on it. b/c i see people get rezzed and grab agro almost as soon as they start doing anything again.

Dying does clear hate

But the bigger spike damage you do the faster you climb up the hate list.

So if an assassin dies, rezzed, then gets small string of double attack crits for 3+k a piece and does assassinate... yeah.. hes going to get aggro in under 6 seconds.

Widem · 05-31-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnathon

Dying does clear hate

But the bigger spike damage you do the faster you climb up the hate list.

So if an assassin dies, rezzed, then gets small string of double attack crits for 3+k a piece and does assassinate... yeah.. hes going to get aggro in under 6 seconds.

still wouldnt make sense how they would have more agro than lets say me doing a 60k damage in a matter of 2 seconds.

thats what drove me to try and figure out whats going on. and ive seen it more with mages than anything else.

Johnathon · 05-31-2007, 02:38 PM

Memblur device from tinkerers...

Great way to kill someone pre nerf.