Are these my forums?

[mania]

Originally Posted by Slix

Yeah i did edit his post, it was your basic flame on fury players about crying so I changed it.

Yeah it was probably not the best thing to do but being involved in the thread I got a little pissed off at him tolling around. And I hate trolls more then anything else...want to post something constructive or post a point about the converstation, or rebuttle a point made by someone else fine go ahead post all you want....troll the thread and I get pissed.

Was it abusive, no the comment had no bearing at all to any message in the thread other then to stir more shit up, if there was a point to his post it wouldnt of been touched. Was it a bad choice..yeah it was but hey im just a person like everyone here. I volenteered for the mod spot other made me the mod, so I read and post, answer questions and debate.

Its a fourm, I dont get paid, I dont get any benfit from doing it other then spending time giving info on my class to others in the game. My life goes on just fine without ever needing to come here.

As for the poster who I edited yeah im sorry I erased your original post, Im not sorry for calling you a cry baby.

Dont like me fine, find a new mod who wants the extra work I wont lose any sleep, dont care if I stay a mod fine as well, I will continue helping my community just dont troll around.

I think its great you apologize, but a/ yes editing someone's post is abusive, and b/just because a mod cries 'I don't get paid for this' when something goes awry does not give a golden ticket to make one exception for a fuck up.

Other then that, at least you acknowledge it, unlike many people I have seen before.

[Gryffk]

Originally Posted by razieh

Did you even read my post..........

Yes... I read the whole... fucking... thread.

What's funny is... on an almost daily basis on the Fury forums, whenever someone disagrees with Widem, a whole pack of Disso members floods in to back Widem up and tell the dissenting person why they are a moron, idiot <insert appropriate slur here>. But, when someone else comes in to defend their guild member...wow, omg, people who aren't furies can't come troll on the Fury boards !#!#!##$$!#!#!!!!

/boggle

[oddyophile]

*disclaimer: This thread will probably be edited by me repeatedly if the quoting didn't work out right. Please be patient.

I know how you like things to be backed up, Widem, so here you go. Nice trick with the embedded responses to my post, by the way. It does make responding a little tricky, but I'll see what I can do.

Are you going to "back up" your statement that more of my posts were deleted? What do you mean you can't? Well I guess that makes you an idiot, a crybaby, and a liar. Sucks to be you.

hmmm how would I. those posts have been deleted.

It's called a joke. Look it up.

joke /dʒoʊk/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[johk] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, joked, jok·ing.
–noun
1. something said or done to provoke laughter or cause amusement, as a witticism, a short and amusing anecdote, or a prankish act: He tells very funny jokes. She played a joke on him.
2. something that is amusing or ridiculous, esp. because of being ludicrously inadequate or a sham; a thing, situation, or person laughed at rather than taken seriously; farce: Their pretense of generosity is a joke. An officer with no ability to command is a joke.
3. a matter that need not be taken very seriously; trifling matter: The loss was no joke.
4. something that does not present the expected challenge; something very easy: The test was a joke for the whole class.
5. practical joke.
–verb (used without object)
6. to speak or act in a playful or merry way: He was always joking with us.
7. to say something in fun or teasing rather than in earnest; be facetious: He didn't really mean it, he was only joking.
–verb (used with object)
8. to subject to jokes; make fun of; tease.
9. to obtain by joking: The comedian joked coins from the audience.
[Origin: 1660–70; < L jocus jest]

Now if you look at the thread, I show up to tell people that Goozer's post was verified by other parses, and to stick up for him hitting that 3k. Then you tell me, "stick it up your ass." I really hope that is off topic, because if the Fury boards are all about sticking things up people asses I have to wonder what your class is really on a raid for. Although I guess it explains why you post there so much. But I'm going to assume this is a flame, and that opens the door for more flamage.

verify? verify from what? there was not one person that contested it for you to have grounds to verify anything. One person, moj, commented that it really wasnt that impressive from what he read in the parse.

It was preemptive. Goozer was already being called a liar. It was obvious the first shots at Goozer's would parse would be, "It didn't really happen."

I missed the part where he said he had Time Compression in an earlier post, and it turned out he was in fact lying. Good for you! You get a cookie. Sadly for you, that's not where this post ends.

What follows are posts from you and your typical string of simple insults, Razieh and Pinski insulting my guild, and Trumak showing up to insult Goozer and me. Those posts are still there, and unchanged.

what followed was mostly me and slix proving how the parse number were incorrect either maliciously or out of plain ignorance. that log itself shows 1 hour 39min while dps is only calculated over the course of an hour and 30min. i further show that the amount of spells cast in the time allotted is not mathematically possible without some mysterious ability that made a fury cast more often than normally possible.

Originally Posted by Widem

you know what im seriously not impressed at all...and you posting this parse lets me completely discect what you have done and proves how you are a complete fuckstick.
that problems is that your assumption is that everyone will just look at your ext dps but lets take a further look into whats there...

as far as the zonewide...dont feel bad its pretty solid for a fury but the problem with a EH parse is more trash = higher zonewide and from what i see you clear about 30min more trash than i do. i also find it pretty weak they would give you illusionist buffs, but hey some guilds are pretty stupid.

I'll get to why those bits are highlighted later.

If the posts are still there when I get home I'll use your favorite tactic of quoting the posts since you seem to simple minded to simply go look for yourself what was actually posted.

As soon as they saw goozer lied Xenobe called him a special needs piece of shit.

Originally Posted by Trumak

I could play my year old retired fury and shit on all your lives you fucking scrubs.

There's Trumak's first post, just FYI. Hmmm, I think that's a swipe at all the furies on the forums, not just Goozer. I wonder why that's still there? After all:

Originally Posted by Slix

Was it abusive, no the comment had no bearing at all to any message in the thread other then to stir more shit up, if there was a point to his post it wouldnt of been touched. Was it a bad choice..yeah it was but hey im just a person like everyone here. I volenteered for the mod spot other made me the mod, so I read and post, answer questions and debate.

But wait! There's more:

You retorted making fun of disso then Cal and Xenobe made fun of our guild as a whole i beleive it was along the lines of congrats on being behind top guilds in this expansion and using the strats in order to conquer one of the worst servers in the game

Originally Posted by razieh

Ill tell you whats pathetic your lame ass comments lately, what the fuck are you Goozer's body guard!!! You are on a rampage to insult Widem, but while you were so haste fully typing up your reply you failed to even understand Widems point. Lets build a check list of the awesome things we learned!!

* Goozer can do 3.1k dps every fight
* Goozer is so good that he out heals every healer in your guild while doing DPS
* All the healers in your guild are absolute shit except Goozer

Originally Posted by Pinski

You know how you're being shady, is looking at how long you were in the zone from zone-in to the start of your 3rd floor. It was almost 3 hours. Obviously you're waiting for everything to come up on every pull for everybody. Which is obviously inflating your dps. Quit being dumb and acting like your parsers are from how real guilds pull.

Originally Posted by Trumak

It ends with you looking like a special needs piece of shit.

There's the post you were looking from Trumak. 3 pages later.

Originally Posted by razieh

You are a true winner there ash, Widem & Slix made one post about zone wides and I agreed. Goozers points were moronic, then he tried to change these points hence what I was arguing about the entire time unlike Widem.

Oh and try not to make post complaining things were not fair, bullshit, dumb game mechanic when its your fault you were having problems. Then people wouldn't have to tease you and tell you what you are doing wrong.

Edit** Why do you keep saying (DEFILER) (FURY) what does that matter its a public board? If it really matters that much to you, I have a fury alt, Trumak was a fury as his main before his bruiser, what about you? Personally class sections don't mean much to me I click that little button in the top left [Post Bot] and see whats being posted in, thats how I found this thread.

Those threads are off-topic, and include a whole lot of insults. Or, as we call them on the internet, flames (and that's why they are there in red). I responded to your flames with flames, which is how things go on the internet. If you think differently you must be new here, and by "here" I don't mean this site. I mean the internet and life in general.
You can also see where Razieh dragged in drama from other threads, and the insults to my guild and the healers in it started. You even included an insult to my whole server as part of your intelligent debate. Way to educate the Fury community guys. Great work.

And to keep this on the topic of the thread, good going moderator for leaving those up.

And way to drag your bullshit from thread to thread, Widem. You got your ass handed to you in the MT group and healer parse thread, but here you are again trying to make your case in another. I would call you pathetic again, but I don't think I even have to say it anymore.

Ass getting handed to me? I'm sure. there not only did grev point out that goozer did have infact have TC thus proving me right. The parse that was posted for your 3rd floor trash clearing was for 1 hour and 1min. It did not have wuoshi or treah in it. lets say those took you 10min, that left only 19min left on goozers parse to clear all of floor 1 and 2 meaning he deleted encounters . That parse was fucked up on so many different levels but you guys in ever reaching goal for community appreciation didnt care.

Originally Posted by Widem
ash...this comment once again shows how just utterly fucking stupid you are.

you are the only person in revelations thus far that is just a complete idiot and ill tell you why.

I don't get it.

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raid dps is in no way manipulated by buff stacking the way a single persons can be.
goozer was confronted about why some of his numbers looked the way they did he lied about some but when he realized that no one was buying it what he was saying he started asking some pretty intelligent questions and hopefully in the end we have some kind of understanding for what possible outlooks there are for growth as a dpsing fury.

in addition the people who were disputing what he was saying was strictly me and slixia. razieh does not know my class well enough to be able to dig out inconsistiencies in a fury parse the way slix and i could so we were the ones that called bullshit. his entire argument in that thread was how moronic it is to think a single target parse is a better represenative for dps than a zonewide.
Yes, reinstate your arguments again to try and get the last word now that no one cares. Good plan. I'm sure it will work out for you.

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no one in the thread you mentioned above disputed 41k raid dps. the only person who did was slamdar. b/c you know what? why would i when we have been getting well above that for sometime.

furthermore i think what you are is an ungrateful prick. razieh has, even after you make personal attacks that have no substance what so ever, taught you how to play your class better than you could have yourself just in the past 5-6days. he has been the one that educated you in up to healing for wards, he has been the one who helped you perfect what you did on avatar of hate and all you do is post random bullshit attacking him for things he hasnt even done.
Well it's no surprise to anyone that I'm idiot. I'm also everything that's wrong with this game, a whore, a retard, and now I'm an ungrateful prick. I'm just racking up the titles. Thankfully the rantings and ravings of a psychotic like yourself on a website worry me only enough to take screenshots to offer the police evidence for the day you completely flip out and start hurting people.

So where exactly did I attack Razieh? Get the quotes, I know you can find them. I'll wait. In the meantime let me tell you a little fact that you may have misunderstood (far be it from me to straight out call you a liar). I didn't talk to Razieh about the Hate encounter. When I heard someone from my guild did, I was pissed. He didn't "help me," but used an innocent question from someone in my guild who didn't know how petty you twats can be to make it look like Revelations was asking Disso for help.

You got the quote yet of my vicious attacks against Razieh? While you cut and paste them into position, and highlight your key points let me also remind you that I asked a question on a public forum about what he knew about how Heal-To effected healers. In fact, I posted my first question to any shaman, and Razieh is the one that responded. He was doing what he always does, providing the community with information. The thread brought up questions that weren't answered in that thread, and someone had answers. That's called discussion, not education. Check that thread for those amazing personal attacks I've been lobbing at Razieh, and include those beneath this paragraph.

I'm pretty sure why you chose me to go after, Widem. You are, once again, bored and looking for a fight, and you think by throwing out the same tired insults you always use I'm going to engage. I'm not going to let you spread lies about me, though, and I think you can understand that. I mean, we all know how much liars piss you off, right? Feel free to try and justify yourself beneath this paragraph.

The post you didn't even bother to respond to, which was probably for the best. You did take the time to admit that Alania had a point about the use of the word "they", but I get no similar concessions when I asked where my insults to Razieh were? Bad form, sir.

Now i could sum this all up, but I don't think I will. I know you'll be going over every bit of this in earnest so you can make a post picking apart all my idiotic falacies. Good luck with that. I hope it keeps you busy until that next contested spawns, or until you find something better to occupy your time with other than being a douchebag.

[razieh]

If you have a problem with anything thats fine but dragging me in this with bullshit statements is really awesome. Yes you learned to quote, but what you did is use them completely out of context.

Originally Posted by razieh

• Goozer is so good that he out heals every healer in your guild while doing DPS
• All the healers in your guild are absolute shit except Goozer

That is a perfectly valid statement and wasen't a hit at your guild so much as it was at Goozers HUGE EGO.

Originally Posted by Goozmania

If I'm ever under 500, my heal parse is generally 2x the next highest healer, or I was just slacking. Cuz u see, all the other priests (save wardens) have debuffs and temporary buffs to cast; in lieu of that, I have nukes and dot's to cast. Tho I do use our horrible debuffs anyway lawl

Here he is spouting about how he out heals everyone near the start of the thread WAY before I said that, my comment was in response to that and justified.

Originally Posted by oddyophile

Like you and Razieh giving me shit for being in the Fury forums to help out a guildie? You rock dude, fer reals. I showed up to verify the validity of the parse Goozer laid out. I missed the part where he said he didn't get Time Compression. I started reading when Razieh (a defiler) was giving Goozer crap (a Fury) to back up his buddy Widem in the Fury forums. And now you've come in as well to call people names as part of that "constructive debate" this thread was all about.


LoL. Don't forget Dissolution. Thanks for laying out your leet Avatar strats for us in the forums. Nothing can stop us now!

You posted this after I called you out on just posting one lined bullshit for no reason, then I posted about your issues with Hate. Who the fuck are you Quentin Tarantino, your concept of time and what happened first is so skewed its hilarious.

[Goozmania]

Originally Posted by razieh

If you have a problem with anything thats fine but dragging me in this with bullshit statements is really awesome. Yes you learned to quote, but what you did is use them completely out of context.

That is a perfectly valid statement and wasen't a hit at your guild so much as it was at Goozers HUGE EGO.
Here he is spouting about how he out heals everyone near the start of the thread WAY before I said that, my comment was in response to that and justified.

You posted this after I called you out on just posting one lined bullshit for no reason, then I posted about your issues with Hate. Who the fuck are you Quentin Tarantino, your concept of time and what happened first is so skewed its hilarious.

Hey, how about you stop bringing me into this topic, which is about moderators and Slix. Now you're miss quoting things I've already explained to make me look bad, without showing any explanations and shit. But wait, that's how you argue, like an asshole

[Calbiyum]

Hey have you guys heard the rumor that Aaron Carter might come back to full time raiding and join The Backstreet Boys?

[razieh]

Originally Posted by Goozmania

Hey, how about you stop bringing me into this topic, which is about moderators and Slix. Now you're miss quoting things I've already explained to make me look bad, without showing any explanations and shit. But wait, that's how you argue, like an asshole

Look its called a chain reaction, you have a member of your guild calling me out on something so I merely quoted the conversation in the correct order instead of backwards. I could have put a disclaimer that you apologized or corrected yourself later in the thread, but honestly that never came to mind. I was merely defending my self from his blatant lies and attempts to either start drama or save face.

[Ishbu]

Originally Posted by Noirsoldats

So you're saying I can't visit the Conjuror Forum and offer my TWO+ YEARS worth of experiance?

LFG might not be, but Im definitly thinking about it.

Ive had a magician in eq1 since 2000 to this current day that I never play anymore. Should I go around to the eq1 mage sites and offer my SEVEN+ YEARS worth of experience or should I just stfu and learn what I can since its not my main and others know more about it than I do?

Your free to read whatever boards you want. Your free to post in them constructively. Shit, your even free to post retarded crap like everyone does from time to time, but after reading this absolutely stupid comment from you, I would definitly say I personally would pull the trigger on moderating your ass for something stupid or incorrect quicker than a normal person.

Hell, I havent moderated anyone on the conjuror boards at all yet, and even let Calybium do his thing since he hasnt gotten out of hand with it yet, but seeing someone think they have a clue because they made an alt years ago shows what kind intelligence you have.

[Slix]

Ashmoria, The apology was for the act of editing and removal of a post and original statements and to LFG for the drama. I dont care or need your acceptance of the apology it was given do what you want with it.

As far as the furys are concerned...yeah he can parse that much with those buffs, sure he left out some facts that would of made things more clear about his numbers, but we all pretty much agreed that those numbers are not normally done nor is it practical to try.
We have all moved past this debate...its yesterday's news. No hard feelings was a fun debate.



Mania Im not asking for a golden ticket, im not crying wolf. Im saying this is a volenteer job, dont want me to do the work fine...find another volenteer there are other things i can do with my time. Otherwise I will continue doing work for the furys, I wasnt trying to imply anything else.



I had heard and seen many other occations where post editied, deleted, etc and didnt really consider it a capitol offence, but as LFG said this shouldnt be done and there are other ways to handle issues other then using edits and I understand that and accept his rules.

Im not going to concern myself with this anymore nor will I stress over the opinions of people i dont know or care about. For those who want me banned or de-modded thats fine voice your concerns to LFG and if makes the call I will understand, its his forums, there are many other things I can spend my time on, I wont lose any sleep. Im not being cocky or defiant just being real, life goes on with or without a keyboard.

Have a nice day

[mania]

Originally Posted by Slix

Mania Im not asking for a golden ticket, im not crying wolf. Im saying this is a volenteer job, dont want me to do the work fine...find another volenteer there are other things i can do with my time. Otherwise I will continue doing work for the furys, I wasnt trying to imply anything else.

I will clarify:

PLEASE stop saying its a volunteer job, etc. We all know its voluntary, and that its a pain in the ass. No one doesn't want you to continue doing it, my main point is that doing something that you blatantly should expect backlash for (ie. editing someone's post rather then just deleting or at least making it clear you are in fact editing) will put things into question, and you just need to take the heat for the time being rather then continually refer to how you volunteered to do this and try to slink out of the limelight. It will go away on its own in a day or two, everything does.