I love how SOE picks their beta testers. - Page 10

MeridianR · 10-10-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RadarX

Oh so you know me now? Tell me how much I raid? I don't come here swinging my epeen about what I've seen and how badass I am so I don't raid? Tell me you got something better?

Let's see Sanguine Manner - I know the guild on Befallen consists of 42 members. 11 of which are L70.

Taking a quick look at the Befallen forums here I don't see any mention of said guild raiding.

Next step would be to take a look at any alliances that exist on Befallen - which I dont' really see any of.

So if by raiding you mean - Relic farming, then just maybe you raid every 12 hours.

Dystrax · 10-10-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RadarX

Oh well your sig says you are a chanter...I can't imagine why you would be upset. So do you know anything at all about the changes he's made to all the other classes? Do you know about EVERY single class and how their abilities function, solo, group, and in a raid? That's what he does. And if you got your panties that twisted over one thing I'm assuming was a mistake since I don't have a chanter, then hate on my friend.

Look man, you're being an idiot. I was the first to admit that control changes had to happen, that the unbreakable root was over powered.

It wasn't the change that got me: he just spewed sentence after sentence of shit that proved nothing more than he was completely ignorant about the way chanters work in his game. So yes, i am a chanter, and you are goddamn right it upset me.

So, no, i don't know about the other changes to other classes. I am sure he made plenty of great ones. All i know is that he made himself look the fool to the chanter community, and i am sure it doesn't stop there.

RadarX · 10-10-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

You're in a guild with 11 Level 70s. You're on Befallen, and not in EC, so it's obvious you aren't controlling contested mobs. It's also obvious looking at your gear, here, that you have no raiding experience as you have no gear from raiding. So please, don't try to say you raid when you don't raid.

Lol...you're an idiot Pinski.

In case you didn't notice? I'm a healer dumbass. I don't have to wear raid gear to raid. I've lost more raid gear drop rolls than I can count. Course I'm sure you knew that since you know everything about me. Tell me what have I raided man? I'm still waiting. I'm sure it's on EQ2Players.

If you'll excuse me I need to inform everyone that isn't in EC that they don't raid.

Lol...

Malachani · 10-10-2006, 02:33 PM

Come on guys, stop with the petty personal insults. Radar, you are taking far too personally the comments people are making in regards to the Dev's. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of how a dev acts. If someone "gets his panties in a twist" over a FUNDAMENTAL change to his class, he has every right to. I'm sure you'd be upset too if your class was completely changed in the name of "controlling epics" to only find out your actual control of mobs was nerfed to hell.

And btw, same person who "got his panties in a knot" never said anything about any of the other classes, yet you railed into him saying "So do you know anything at all about the changes he's made to all the other classes? Do you know about EVERY single class and how their abilities function, solo, group, and in a raid?"

Honestly, guys, lets get back to beta, and the bullshit way they "randomly" pick the same guilds to beta test every time.

Dystrax · 10-10-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RadarX

Lol...you're an idiot Pinski.

In case you didn't notice? I'm a healer dumbass. I don't have to wear raid gear to raid. I've lost more raid gear drop rolls than I can count. Course I'm sure you knew that since you know everything about me. Tell me what have I raided man? I'm still waiting. I'm sure it's on EQ2Players.

If you'll excuse me I need to inform everyone that isn't in EC that they don't raid.

Lol...

Rolls?!?!

MeridianR · 10-10-2006, 02:34 PM

Hey Radar in response to you raiding:

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/e...d=35318#M35318

RadarX · 10-10-2006, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dystrax

Look man, you're being an idiot. I was the first to admit that control changes had to happen, that the unbreakable root was over powered.

It wasn't the change that got me: he just spewed sentence after sentence of shit that proved nothing more than he was completely ignorant about the way chanters work in his game. So yes, i am a chanter, and you are goddamn right it upset me.

So, no, i don't know about the other changes to other classes. I am sure he made plenty of great ones. All i know is that he made himself look the fool to the chanter community, and i am sure it doesn't stop there.

And all I'm saying is when you have the ENTIRE community bitching at you, every now and then you might pop one off. He's human. The man did his best, probably off the cuff answering Chanter issues (which he had no obligation to even acknowledge by the way) and you just admitted the changes were good. If you don't like his demeanor I can appreciate that, but he is generally who decides those changes, so obviouslly he wasn't totally in the dark.

Pinski · 10-10-2006, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dystrax

Look man, you're being an idiot. I was the first to admit that control changes had to happen, that the unbreakable root was over powered.

It wasn't the change that got me: he just spewed sentence after sentence of shit that proved nothing more than he was completely ignorant about the way chanters work in his game. So yes, i am a chanter, and you are goddamn right it upset me.

So, no, i don't know about the other changes to other classes. I am sure he made plenty of great ones. All i know is that he made himself look the fool to the chanter community, and i am sure it doesn't stop there.

Link
"Changes to control, both positive and negative, shouldn't be looked at alone. I've been reviewing how coercers play in solo and grouping. I've watched coercers who know how to solo higher con heroics using 2 unbreakable roots while keeping 2 separate encounters locked down at the same time (no other class could pull off such a heroic feat). The less successful coercers were the ones trying to charm a pet and have it break on them as they were soloing. Charming a pet was supposed to be the gateway that allows coercers to solo successfully, which wasn't happening because it would break much too early. LU16b chances put strength back into the weaker aspects of coercer soloing, making charms last longer and break less often, addding risk involved in attempting to solo heroics without a charmed pet, and make their DPS through indirect damage more reliable."

Yaah, he failed to mention how long it takes for that Coercer to do that, while a Wizard could just have the first heroic dead in that time, and wouldn't have any problems at all.

Dystrax · 10-10-2006, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Elanie

Come on guys, stop with the petty personal insults. Radar, you are taking far too personally the comments people are making in regards to the Dev's. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of how a dev acts. If someone "gets his panties in a twist" over a FUNDAMENTAL change to his class, he has every right to. I'm sure you'd be upset too if your class was completely changed in the name of "controlling epics" to only find out your actual control of mobs was nerfed to hell.

And btw, same person who "got his panties in a knot" never said anything about any of the other classes, yet you railed into him saying "So do you know anything at all about the changes he's made to all the other classes? Do you know about EVERY single class and how their abilities function, solo, group, and in a raid?"

Honestly, guys, lets get back to beta, and the bullshit way they "randomly" pick the same guilds to beta test every time.

Nah, i am talking about the post lockeye made during DoF about chanter control spells, not the epic control changes.

But thank you for the support, heh.

Dystrax · 10-10-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

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"Changes to control, both positive and negative, shouldn't be looked at alone. I've been reviewing how coercers play in solo and grouping. I've watched coercers who know how to solo higher con heroics using 2 unbreakable roots while keeping 2 separate encounters locked down at the same time (no other class could pull off such a heroic feat). The less successful coercers were the ones trying to charm a pet and have it break on them as they were soloing. Charming a pet was supposed to be the gateway that allows coercers to solo successfully, which wasn't happening because it would break much too early. LU16b chances put strength back into the weaker aspects of coercer soloing, making charms last longer and break less often, addding risk involved in attempting to solo heroics without a charmed pet, and make their DPS through indirect damage more reliable."

Yaah, he failed to mention how long it takes for that Coercer to do that, while a Wizard could just have the first heroic dead in that time, and wouldn't have any problems at all.

Thank you Cal, i was too lazy to find it myself.

God that quote gets even more ridiculous everytime i read it.