I love how SOE picks their beta testers. - Page 2

Ravenne · 10-10-2006, 03:50 AM

Is beta envy anything like penis envy?

Calthine · 10-10-2006, 03:51 AM

Very much so, 'cause it's based entirely in the mind of the person experiencing it.

Alania · 10-10-2006, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Calthine

Sounds to me that some folks here have Beta envy.

For me its not Beta envy, as I've never actually gotten a beta invite except for LDON in all 8 years I've been a Sony customer. I wasn't expecting one this time.

But to send invites to people who had cancelled their accounts?! Are they hoping to sucker them into renewing? And people who only play a couple hours a week? Do you suddenly think they're going to up their play time to a couple hours a day to test? I doubt it.

The thing about raiders is... they usually don't JUST raid. They raid, solo, group, craft, and sometimes just sit around on EFP or QH docks oogling each other. I'm not saying that Beta should ONLY go to raiders, but to ignore them is foolish.

Oh yeah, and to invite entire guilds in for testing raid content is retarded. JMHO. There's thousands of people to pick from, and who isn't shocked that FOH gets picked?

Calthine · 10-10-2006, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Elanie

But to send invites to people who had cancelled their accounts?! Are they hoping to sucker them into renewing?

First I heard of that. Proof?

Ravenne · 10-10-2006, 03:59 AM

Quote from some Sony guy somewhere saying this:
"What is being tested on that server are the combat adjustments posted about yesterday, in existing content." (Please don't make me look up who actually said it!)

In response to 'inviting entire guilds' : Maybe testing complicated new combat stuff is best with a group you know how to work with. Pick up groups are so icky.

Calthine · 10-10-2006, 04:02 AM

That's in the quote I put on the first thread of this page. I mean proof they invited people who'd cancelled.

Ravenne · 10-10-2006, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Calthine

That's in the quote I put on the first thread of this page. I mean proof they invited people who'd cancelled.

I was replying to Elanie about 'why entire guilds'.

Alania · 10-10-2006, 04:05 AM

To answer your question, Calthine, a quote from the OP:

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Originally Posted by Kriddle

On top of that I know 2 people that cancelled their accounts and still got beta invites.

I don't know anyone personally, but he does. And it just doesn't feel right.

Calthine · 10-10-2006, 04:10 AM

I'd want to know the oder of events on that, at least.

Dystrax · 10-10-2006, 04:11 AM

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many of those "Uber-snifty high-end hardcore raiding" people would test thoroughly at all levels. They would beta buff toons and go own lowbie areas, and with their enhanced understanding of the way the mechanics work, their testing would be all the more efficient and effective.

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Except they're not. They're doing what they do best, testing the tough content that the non-raiders don't. The (ah, I hesitate to use the word casual, but there it is) people with less time to dedicate can test the other stuff, like newb content. Someone has to test the non-hardcore raid stuff, lol. Hardcore dedicated raiders, generally speaking, have one focus - hardcore raiding.

And there's nothing wrong with that as a playstyle

You want to test cars, get professional drivers. You want to test recipes, get professional chefs. You want to test raids, get professional raiders. You want to test solo and group content, get those players.

Sounds to me that some folks here have Beta envy.

First of all, yes i have beta envy.

Beyond that...

If i want to know the capabilities of my Yugo, i am not going to put my damn grandmother in it and have her tool around in first gear trying to work the clutch. I am going to put a race car driver in it and see what he can do.

If i want to determine the most delicious and aesthetically pleasing way to make a hot dog, i am not going to hire habib over on 42nd and broadway. I am going to bring in culinary experts.

I am sorry but if you really think that "casual" players are the most effective testers of "casual" content you are smoking crack. If you can't tell the difference when your lowbie alt is in a group of strictly "casual" players vs. a group with "raiders" who just own content at any level, you have not been in an alt group with "raiders".

By all means, invite casual players to beta...but if you want the content tested at the most extreme levels then you have to bring in people who are capable of testing at that level.