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Old 07-18-2007, 02:04 AM  
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Default Different Proc Types: Anyone know for sure?

Ok, i am testing out several different options for DPS gear.

There are items that proc on:

Spells
Melee
Attack

My question is... for items that say on a successful attack does that mean both Spells and Melee? If its only Melee, why doesnt it just say Melee... im just trying to get clarification on this.

Anyone know?
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:05 AM  
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Default Re: Different Proc Types: Anyone know for sure?

For something to proc on both spell attacks and weapon attacks, it has to say "on any successful attack".

Items that say "on a succesful attack" can mean ranged or melee. It's very very vague here, which is why they can't just say melee in some cases.
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:39 AM  
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I think this was posted here and LFG even made a fancy table image but for some reason it's not working, so here is the text as posted by Archonix:

On any successful attack
Any melee attack, ranged attack, damage-based combat arts, damage-based spells

On a successful attack

Any melee attack, ranged attack, damage-based combat art

On a successful melee attack

Any melee attack

On a successful ranged attack
ranged attack, ranged combat arts

When target uses a combat art
Target uses a combat art.

When target casts a spell
Any spells

When target casts a beneficial spell
Any non hostile spell

When target casts a healing spell
Any healing spell

On a successful hostile spell
Any non-beneficial type spells

When target surpasses X% health
Health is > % specified

When target falls below X% health
Health is < % specified

On a successful spell attack
Any damage-based spells

When target dies
You got pwned

When target is healed
Any healing spell applied

When target strikes a death blow
Your target got pwned

When target blocks
Your target blocks you

When target deflects
Your target deflects

When target dodges
Your target dodges

When target parries
Your target parries

When target ripostes
Your target ripostes

On a successful riposte
You riposte

On a successful block
You block

On a successful deflection
You deflect

On a successful parry
You parry

When target is damaged in combat
You take any melee damage

When target is damaged
You take any damage

When target is damaged with a ranged weapon
You take ranged damage

When target is damaged with a spell
You take spell damage
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:57 AM  
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Default Re: Different Proc Types: Anyone know for sure?

also they should add that procs on melee weapons arent susposed to proc off ranged and vice versa. that one had me really pissed after i finally got my membranous spine sheath =/
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:14 PM  
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Default Re: Different Proc Types: Anyone know for sure?

Sony's list is absolute bullshit.

Best way to figure out is to test it or have a friend who has the item to test it.
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:00 PM  
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It would be valuable to perhaps make a list of the ones which are really wrong, eh?
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Old 07-19-2007, 09:38 AM  
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Sony's list is absolute bullshit.

Best way to figure out is to test it or have a friend who has the item to test it.
Bolded and highlighted the important part, just because something says "On a Successful Attack" or "On any Successful attack" does NOT mean that it actually procs on a successful attack. And that is why the entire proc system needs to be looked into and descriptions changed so that items actually proc how they are worded to.
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Old 07-19-2007, 09:44 AM  
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Revel covererd them all.

ANY successful attack is any spell, combat art, auto attack. Successful attack is any combat art, melee auto-attack (sometimes range auto attack)

Berserker's Berserk proc is any successful attack, for example..
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ANY successful attack is any spell, combat art, auto attack. Successful attack is any combat art, melee auto-attack (sometimes range auto attack)
Not true, go ask any Ranger out there about that because those two wordings do not proc on a ranged CA or auto attack.
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Not true, go ask any Ranger out there about that because those two wordings do not proc on a ranged CA or auto attack.
Ask any ranger out there..




DOES proc off of ranged, and it is on successful attack. Like I said, it is one of the FEW items that does proc off ranged. I didn't say everything procs off of ranged, no.. in fact, from what I've heard they're completely butchering that weapon for rangers next LU.
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