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Nardaak · 08-06-2007, 06:28 PM

why go to a portion of a Plane of a god and have the mobs weaker than your raidforce, they want to make the Avatars the hardest content but yet they are opening an actual portion of a plane and its suppose to be blue content come RoK?

Maybe im off track with the being a portion of Plane of Fear but lets see here, it is the Portal of Fear that is the zone in, it is called "Shard of" which leads you to believe it is a fragment of the plane, Cazic Thule isnt suppose to be surrounded by weak ass shit. Cons make a big difference in this game, and so if it is 75-80 which will mean blue content it will end up being Labs 2.0

Edit: Yes the heroic istance is Shard of Fear and raid is Shard of "Hate", i am confused as to why when there is a god of Hate and Fear would you make those 2 so similar in names. Portal of Fear should not take you to Cazic's plane for heroic and Inoruuk's plane for raid....

Niber · 08-06-2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nardaak

why go to a portion of a Plane of a god and have the mobs weaker than your raidforce, they want to make the Avatars the hardest content but yet they are opening an actual portion of a plane and its suppose to be blue content come RoK?

Maybe im off track with the being a portion of Plane of Fear but lets see here, it is the Portal of Fear that is the zone in, it is called "Shard of" which leads you to believe it is a fragment of the plane, Cazic Thule isnt suppose to be surrounded by weak ass shit. Cons make a big difference in this game, and so if it is 75-80 which will mean blue content it will end up being Labs 2.0

Whos to say the boss isn't 85? I'm just saying assuming it is T7 is foolish, I'd pretty sure it won't be.

Nardaak · 08-06-2007, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Niber

Whos to say the boss isn't 85? I'm just saying assuming it is T7 is foolish, I'd pretty sure it won't be.

im just expressing myself hoping it better not be, after playing since beta i never have high expectations

LFG · 08-06-2007, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nardaak

im just expressing myself hoping it better not be, after playing since beta i never have high expectations

Playing beta is kind of like watching sausage being made. One reason I never do either extensively is because the final product becomes much more appetizing when you don't see the assembly line.

Pinski · 08-06-2007, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LFG

Playing beta is kind of like watching sausage being made. One reason I never do either extensively is because the final product becomes much more appetizing when you don't see the assembly line.

I don't think you understand his comment at all. He's talking about the fact that he's been let down since the original Beta of EQ2, so his expectations are pretty much near the very bottom.

WIZ235 · 08-06-2007, 06:49 PM

RoK "sounds" good. It brings back lots of EQ memories. But there will be AoC and WAR coming up very soon. I dont think RoK could draw "that much" attention.

Paikis · 08-07-2007, 03:41 AM

What do you mean Labs is EASY!? That zone is HARD!

Uyaem · 08-07-2007, 07:32 AM

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What do you mean Labs is EASY!? That zone is HARD!

If you try to one-group it, it's still a challenge, yes.

gungo · 08-07-2007, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Nardaak

why go to a portion of a Plane of a god and have the mobs weaker than your raidforce, they want to make the Avatars the hardest content but yet they are opening an actual portion of a plane and its suppose to be blue content come RoK?

Maybe im off track with the being a portion of Plane of Fear but lets see here, it is the Portal of Fear that is the zone in, it is called "Shard of" which leads you to believe it is a fragment of the plane, Cazic Thule isnt suppose to be surrounded by weak ass shit. Cons make a big difference in this game, and so if it is 75-80 which will mean blue content it will end up being Labs 2.0

Edit: Yes the heroic istance is Shard of Fear and raid is Shard of "Hate", i am confused as to why when there is a god of Hate and Fear would you make those 2 so similar in names. Portal of Fear should not take you to Cazic's plane for heroic and Inoruuk's plane for raid....

It was posted by a dev before (i beleive vhalen) that eq2 has some suspension of belief. It was stated that a mob like the Matron is a peon in the grand scheme of things and a mob like darathar is way more powerful then the matron. Although in the game there are arbitrary levels associated with NPC's. Darathar would turn the matron into a charred toothpick. Even though he is level 55 and she is level 75. Furthermore when a raid defeats an npc it does not neccessarily means that npc died in the eq2 universe. The same reason venekor pops up 3 times. He never really died Venekor is a notorious coward and flees at the first sign of battle. So basically what i am saying is level and to a degree heroic/epic designation of a mob is just a game mechanic and has nothing to do with the real power of a NPC.

Because the shard of fear is a heroic zone does not mean the creatures are weak again it does not mean the creatures are hard. All creations of a god in his domain does not mean they are all powerful beings. In hate for instance there is always many dark elves. And although those dark elves are epic x4 in game they really should be no more powerful than any other PC darkelf.

When RoK comes out and we raid sebelis and venril sathir's army of iksar. Those x4 iksars does not mean venril sathir somehow mutated iksars to have 5 billion hitpoints and hit like semi trucks. It is just a delegation of game progress and nothing more.

Stinkfinger · 08-07-2007, 10:59 AM

Well I don’t see Radar’s post here so I will play his part just a bit…

I think this is good stuff, who groups and kills heroic mobs over land? That never happens, only place I know is the breeding grounds and the Cyclopes in DOF.

Who really cares about contested mobs, to me that just a waste of time spend an hour forming and traveling just to kill one mob, sort of dumb. I much prefer the effort spent making cool zones, then effort on one mob here or one mob there that no one but the top 1 percent of the people care about. The only reason people here like them is because most are in the top guilds in the server and can form up and kill them and get decent loot. If there are going to be contested mobs then they should be easier for more causal guilds let more people in on the game, but if that happened the high end guilds would just complain how easy the game is and would not bother.

The change of the combat system where CA mean less spamming really is an excellent idea. Truly, more strategy less spamming is a good thing. And I am one to believe the classes are not in balance. Hopefully with a new complete look at all the classes and abilities, they can better balance them. Furies dpsing over 2 k? tanks like zerks topping the parse,,,are you kidding? I mean really come on guys.

Requiring everyone to be flagged to raid a zone is just stupid idea. One of the main reason why people left EQ1 by the droves. When people can join a guild but they cant raid with them cause they are newer and have not down the previous zone or zones? That’s just dumb. You should be able to play with your guild and friends.

People who live and die by a video game are a dying bred. The “everything is to easy crowd” are few and far between, concentrated in forums like this, but the huge minority. WoW recognized this, and EQ1 did not,,,,and you see the results. Vanguard did not, now there game is failing they are trying to "dumb down"

The fact of the matter is, EQ2 has a good balance of any game out there, causal and less the casual,,,,if you want “HARDCORE”…try eq1. EQ2 has never been for the hardcore,,,,and is a successful game because of it. Because they don’t bend to the will and idea’s of the 30 or so people that posts on threads like this …..

Ok done pinch hitting for RADAR X ……