Come on SOE give us a break

Hurri · 08-08-2007, 12:41 PM

This was my first real MMO so I don't have a lot of experience playing others. I tried the free trial and was instantly hooked on the game. I started right after LU13 went live... don't know how the game was before that but even with all the quirks the game had it was still a very enjoyable experience, a nice challenge, and most of all a shitload of fun. I thought it was great being a new player and having to decide what you wanted to be and working towards it, that gave a sense of accomplishment to me. Sure some of the dialogue was a bit corny at times, but it was still fun.
I was truly impressed that the development team had put so much depth in such a great game. I know many people didn't like the shards, but I thought they were a great idea, and group debt was being changed to be more fair to the other players.They were headed in the right direction at least.

WTF happened? There is no penalty for death, the combat system has been revamped to a piece of shit, the overland zones are like walking through candy-land and since the last update there are no more rares in any sort of practical sense, the used to be rares are dropping at rates that make them common now, and the broker window, chat, and trying to zone at times are lagged all to fuck!

People asked for some changes and some were told that those changes would not be implemented because it didn't mesh with what they had envisioned for the future of the game. envisioned?? are you on drugs or something? You don't really have a plan do you? You really don't see what you are doing to the player-base that has been with you over the years. Hell if your trying to make the game like WoW then you have the wrong game engine for it. OK done venting a bit.

I am not a hardcore player by any stretch of the imagination, but I am pretty sure I could run a toon to 70 in less than a month the way things are now. That is NOT the game I started playing a few years ago. Stop dumbing the game down please. Put heroics back in the game in overland zones, give them the arrows back you took away. Make the named creatures fight like they mean it, they have been ranked as good enough to carry a name over their head, make it mean something! Stop trying to fix shit that isn't broken. Make Nek the way it was before, a true gauntlet to traverse through the owlbears and skellies. Give the classes back what they used to have like Coercers ability to charm dam near anything. I cant tell you how many hours of amusement it was to see Qeynos guards beating the snot out of one another.
Give us back the bugged torrent in SH that would wander up to the top and mop the floor with anyone he found there. Make the rares truly rare again. Give us back exploding chest, deadly forges, shards, and to have a title you have to earn it and not run out to the 7-eleven and buy it.

Here is an idea, open a server that will give some of the old school players a place to play and enjoy. You should still have a copy of the old code lying around somewhere. I could do what some suggest and turn off combat experience or re-roll a toon the first time I die, but for real.... whats the point in that?
I do like some of the stuff your new expansion delivered, the art team did a fantastic job on some of the zones in EOF.
I have bought every expansion since I started and paid for it each time while others are basically given the game with all expansions because they paid for a buggy and not so well thought out Hardcore version of EQ2 called Vanguard or whatever it is.

I know you guys work very hard to try and keep everyone happy and the effort you put forth is greatly appreciated even when its not something I like. You had a great game that was allot of fun to play and there was a sense of accomplishment, but that is all but gone now. I am to the point now where I have to ask myself WHY I still play, maybe I have a psychological disorder?
I have however decided that unless things are turned around to put some of the challenge back into the game the way it used to be, I wont be paying for another expansion. Any thoughts to giving your loyal player-base a free ride on the next one?
The only reason I put this here is because I know SOE visits this site, and the truth often gets you banned from the Official SOE boards.

Slippery · 08-08-2007, 01:01 PM

I could only make it to the second paragraph of your post before my brain explode from the thought

CANDY MOUNTAIN CHARLIE, CANDY MOUNTAIN!

Bitmap · 08-08-2007, 01:06 PM

CANDY MOUNTIAN!!!!

Slippery · 08-08-2007, 01:11 PM

Anyways, I was able to make it through the rest of the post this time and I have a few additions :p

I saw a post about overland zones and how data shows that people don't enjoy grinding in overland zones so the mobs will mostly be solo. This is the perfect example of something self caused. Why don't people like grinding in overland zones? Because their are no heroic mobs, mobs are too far spread apart, there are no nameds, and the loot in overland zones blows ass. It is handicapping yourself to group and xp in overland zones when it doesn't compare at all to dungeons. Don't just say hey people don't xp here so we are just going to make it all solo, how about say why aren't people xp'ing here and how could we get them to do so? With population of mobs in overland zones being so sparse their just isn't enough to kill to xp. Take a look at some of the overland zones that people do xp in, Sinking Sands and Pillars of Flame. What do people kill their? Spiders in SS because their are plenty their in a small area and you can just keep pulling. Cyclops and Giants in PoF for the same exact reason. I don't want to run forever to get to the next mob when I'm grinding, I want to be able to just chain pull with minimal down time.

I really miss runs to the beach in Nek way back in the day. It was exhilarating, it was scary. If you didn't pay attention you got fucked up. Now its so bad you'd basically have to try to get yourself killed on the way to the beach.

RadarX · 08-08-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Slippery

I really miss runs to the beach in Nek way back in the day. It was exhilarating, it was scary. If you didn't pay attention you got fucked up. Now its so bad you'd basically have to try to get yourself killed on the way to the beach.

They revamped Nek...I think twice because people absolutely loathed it.

For the OP yes SOE should reverse what is apparently working for them financially and drop in the old code.

This game works like real life, you can't ever go home. If you don't believe me take a look at how well the Progression servers are doing now in EQ1. This is the way the game is going and SOE is doing everything they can to pull in new players and old by changing the most unpopular mechanics and what they feel isn't working well.

Slippery · 08-08-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RadarX

They revamped Nek...I think twice because people absolutely loathed it.

For the OP yes SOE should reverse what is apparently working for them financially and drop in the old code.

This game works like real life, you can't ever go home. If you don't believe me take a look at how well the Progression servers are doing now in EQ1. This is the way the game is going and SOE is doing everything they can to pull in new players and old by changing the most unpopular mechanics and what they feel isn't working well.

I'll just go to Staples and buy my easy button now.

Widem · 08-08-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Slippery

Take a look at some of the overland zones that people do xp in, Sinking Sands and Pillars of Flame. What do people kill their? Spiders in SS because their are plenty their in a small area and you can just keep pulling. Cyclops and Giants in PoF for the same exact reason. I don't want to run forever to get to the next mob when I'm grinding, I want to be able to just chain pull with minimal down time.

dont forget the breeding grounds in TT for t7

but this comment is dead on. people go and xp where the good content is. the reason people dont play in overland zones is b/c they are boring as fuck and overall stupid. it would take forever to level up in most overland zones b/c of what has been given to work with.

RadarX · 08-08-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Slippery

I'll just go to Staples and buy my easy button now.

You want hard try playing EVE. It isn't like there aren't games catering to the hardcore market.

Talonis · 08-08-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RadarX

You want hard try playing EVE. It isn't like there aren't games catering to the hardcore market.

You want easy try playing LOTR. It isn't like there aren't games catering to the easymode market.

See? Works both ways.

bigron · 08-08-2007, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RadarX

You want hard try playing EVE. It isn't like there aren't games catering to the hardcore market.

yep eve has learning curve the size of a mountain but its preety fun.