What constitutes a no-warning ban?

Deson · 08-09-2007, 08:20 PM

Ok, so I log into the forums with a one day ban. Fine I can accept that. But, I got no warning and even PM'd a mod about the ridiculous back and forth that was derailing a thread. Not sure if the Ban header is generic but

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You have been banned.
You may NOT post or place in a signature any material that attacks or insults others on the forums; or engages in name-calling, harassment, or threats. Feel free to debate an idea, but do not turn your disagreement into an attack upon the poster or any person or group.

I have done none of that. The worst I did was reply to a guy who called me a liar out of the blue with,"I got nothing for you". While not personal, I do take exception to being called a liar so, yes, I did respond to him. My last post to him however, was me bowing out of the back and forth. Baiting is the worst I can be accused of even in light of the PM I sent to Echgar and reports sent on that poster afterward. If baiting is a bannable offense then surely others should have been permabanned by now.

Here's the thread

While some posts were deleted, the worst you see from me is the worst I did. I have no prior warnings and no explanation of the ban in either my email or PM's. The only other posts of mine that have ever been deleted were from Kendricke making a cheap shot and me calling him on it and, later in the thread, remarking that it was odd that some posts related to it were deleted because there was worse in the thread and it threw some of the posts off.That's prompted a PM to Grimwell that was never responded to. The thread

So, while I get the "SOE has absolute power on its boards" clauses, what gives?

Calthine · 08-09-2007, 08:29 PM

Second link was bad for me. Harvesting change or RNG love ?

While I'll agree things were getting a bit hot there (by Official Forum Standards), perma-ban? A cool-off day, okay maybe, but perma? Bit harsh maybe even by my carebear hug-your-neighbor standards.

Deson · 08-09-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Calthine

Second link was bad for me. Harvesting change or RNG love ?

While I'll agree things were getting a bit hot there (by Official Forum Standards), perma-ban? A cool-off day, okay maybe, but perma? Bit harsh maybe even by my carebear hug-your-neighbor standards.

Both links work for me. The second you already know- the Kendricke owes you pie post.

Wasn't perm, just one day. My issue is that with the exception of perhaps baiting, I did nothing wrong-certainly not wrong enough to not have anything noted. Baiting has been famously proven to not earn bans so I'm just curious if I missed something.

Oh and to answer your question on the official forums in that writ thread- Yes, it was about level speed, harvest time and the total commitment required to hit 70 before the writ xp explosion.

Edit: For those not inclined to read a TS related thread, the exchange starts on p5 of the first thread.

Faabio · 08-09-2007, 08:44 PM

They are banning everyone so they don't have to do work

Xasia · 08-10-2007, 02:44 AM

The reality is that there are no rules. Sometimes the EQ2 forum mods follow EQ2's own rules, and sometimes not. Their banning is completely arbitrary and depends on how large of a stick the EQ2 mods have lodged up their asses that morning. Or, if they LIKE being rammed up the rear (and I suspect most of them do!), then its cuz they haven't been butt-sticked lately.

Anyhoo, if you happen to cross their path when they're in a bad sort, or if they have determined that they don't like you because you are smarter, funnier, or hotter than they are (NOT difficult) then you get banned. Cuz they feel like it. And what are you gonna do 'bout it? Nuthin, but come here and BITCH and complain and talk about how they have big sticks up their butts.

I got banned by that nasty, ugly, skanky, freak-lookin' whore Faarwulf. Since she was fired for being a literal whore, I think all of her bans should be lifted. It only makes sense!

Nome sane?! WTF!! Lift my ban, nukkas!!

Calthine · 08-10-2007, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Xasia

Since she was fired for being a literal whore

Thought it was just soft pr0n

Dakis · 08-10-2007, 04:10 AM

I received a one week suspension for swearing at someone on a forum... understandable I guess. Then I was given 4 consecutive 2 weeks suspensions just for using terms such as "doosh" and "shit-eating cock master". I was given no reasons in PM's, nor have I been perma-banned yet. WTF!

Khalan · 08-10-2007, 05:25 AM

I was (Chaosundivded) perma-Banned with no Warning (and had NEVER had a previous warning)for posting the following:

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Originally Posted by Wozza

Obviously you never tried to kill him cleanly on the first pull. If you did, you would know he was never broken on the first pull. Which is probably why it took the devs so long to fix it -- because they didn't discover it in beta, and once the players discovered it on live -- like any bug that swings in the favor of the players, it goes un-reported and un-escalated until you eventually get enough people seeing the bug (generally the less hard-core, competitive folks) and one of them reports it.

Of course -- if one of these types of bugs are introduced *after* some extended period of time -- they are immediately escalated by all the hardcore players because the encounter is gimped. Interesting irony eh?

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Originally Posted by ChaosUndivided

Gimme a break, this bug was Documented, reported and posted on for MONTHS, everyone and their cousin knew about the bug, infact EVERY guild to have ever fought tarinax knew about the bug. It was in forums posts aplenty.

The devs if they actually played the game and raided their own content would have know about the bug.

But like everything SOE, fixes takes months and months to go in and are often neglected due to lack of resources.

In an ironic twist of fate my banning was one of the catalysts(and by no means the only) for the site.

So in the end, I got the last laugh.

Funnily enough as soon as Moorgard left I was Mysteriously Unbanned and even invited to the Community Summit all expenses paid

Red Rock Candy · 08-10-2007, 05:30 AM

Every last mod on the SOE forums should be run over by a train. Even if they are no longer mods, especially that stupid bitch Faarwolf, wonder who she fucked over there to get her job in the first place.

To the OP, fuck the SOE forums. Stay here, I know it is hard to believe but we have fewer retards here than the SOE boards, and when you fight with a retard at EQ2flames.com you simply doing what you are supposed to.

Deson · 08-10-2007, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Rock Candy

Every last mod on the SOE forums should be run over by a train. Even if they are no longer mods, especially that stupid bitch Faarwolf, wonder who she fucked over there to get her job in the first place.

To the OP, fuck the SOE forums. Stay here, I know it is hard to believe but we have fewer retards here than the SOE boards, and when you fight with a retard at EQ2flames.com you simply doing what you are supposed to.

This site is pretty good for informed discussion which is why I stick here for class and mechanics info. Trades doesn't exactly have a presense here though so the official forums are fairly close to my only resource. The postings there for the most part are civil and well thought out as well except a few ignorant posters who just can't accept there are people better than them and that what they call impossible is largely trivial.

I think I know what it was. As soon as someone can tell me whether that ban message is generic or offense related, I'm either going to have a great laugh or have to start over on the guessing.