Why Berserkers should not be complaining about RoK's 70 AAs... - Page 2

Fungie · 11-16-2007, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pagansaint

I will assume when you say rein you mean reinforcement.

Which is answered in the 2h and tower spec. IE, the spec works very well for using a tower and for using a 2h.

Double attacks do not proc Reinforcement, it is a 100% proc ability like CoB or Inspiration where only the first attack can proc it, while yes it does proc on the AE attacks on everything it hits, not having the haste from the Int line actually nets you less hate than if using double attack when using reinforcement if you do not have an illusionist in your group like I already said.

A heavily-hasted 2H + int line is going to proc rein more than a heavily-hasted 1H?

pagansaint · 11-16-2007, 11:15 AM

I take it you still don't understand.

Before RoK, for one hand options that didn't suck you had three choices.

Str/Sta/Int
Str/Agi/Sta
Str/Agi/Int

Of those only the third option has the benefit of good haste and the AE auto attack, it is also the spec that would have the most possible hits of reinforcement meaning it would have the most possible hate position modifiers(the only real component of reinforcement that helps)

It also happens to be the 2h and tower spec.

The other two are buckler based and could have either haste or ae auto attack.

That goes out the window, like exactly as I said in my first two posts, there is an illusionist in your group providing haste to you, in which case Str/Agi/Sta is the best choice if not tanking with a 2h.

pagansaint · 11-16-2007, 12:03 PM

Not that any of this matters anymore of course, you can take Str/Agi/Sta/Int cookie cutter build now and have it all.

Though personally the Int5 ability is pretty damn great.

(Visions of EoF set legs, RoK 3 piece set bonus, RotFW, Int5 and a ~40s reuse reinforcement...)

Fungie · 11-16-2007, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagansaint

I take it you still don't understand.

Before RoK, for one hand options that didn't suck you had three choices.

Str/Sta/Int
Str/Agi/Sta
Str/Agi/Int

Of those only the third option has the benefit of good haste and the AE auto attack, it is also the spec that would have the most possible hits of reinforcement meaning it would have the most possible hate position modifiers(the only real component of reinforcement that helps)

It also happens to be the 2h and tower spec.

The other two are buckler based and could have either haste or ae auto attack.

That goes out the window, like exactly as I said in my first two posts, there is an illusionist in your group providing haste to you, in which case Str/Agi/Sta is the best choice if not tanking with a 2h.

str/agi/sta proc'd rein on adds more than enough when using a 1h... haste or no haste. I've never had a problem keeping aggro on adds. Even when in defensive stance with no respectable buffs from group and fighting 75^^^. The only significant benefit to getting it is when you're not heavily hasted and want some extra DPS.

FWIW, I have no plans to get any int AAs. If int2 also effected reuse time, I would, but it doesn't. Meanwhile... WTB lvl 80 Berserker CA, Adrenaline.

Here's what I do notice about Guard vs. Zerker comparison which is actually unfortunate for Berserkers... they don't have Lay Waste. How about you guys complain about that instead of complaining about nonsense? That's a good CA. I like that CA. You guys should ask for something just like it and then quit complaining. TIA.

Skel · 11-16-2007, 12:27 PM

Yeah im not even talking to you anymore, i just looked at your gear and you have never raided a day in your life... go DIAF

pagansaint · 11-16-2007, 12:36 PM

Wow man, now I know why you're so frustrated by the people on the boards all the time Skel.

Epitaphe · 11-16-2007, 12:36 PM

fungie is funny, but i still think his father shouldnt have creampied his sis that one night he was conceived

Fungie · 11-16-2007, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagansaint

Not that any of this matters anymore of course, you can take Str/Agi/Sta/Int cookie cutter build now and have it all.

Though personally the Int5 ability is pretty damn great.

(Visions of EoF set legs, RoK 3 piece set bonus, RotFW, Int5 and a ~40s reuse reinforcement...)

Yep... int4 and int5 are pretty cool. Unfortunately, they're burried pretty deep.

pagansaint · 11-16-2007, 12:43 PM

Int2 is the best stat2 ability in any tree. Int3 is haste, always good, even better for a guardian, so saying they are buried deep is like saying Sta4 is buried deep. It gives the impression the preceding abilities are crap.

Your explanation above is utter idiocy. Go back and re-read the explanations posted and pick up some knowledge on how the abilities work together, or hell, work period.

Epitaphe · 11-16-2007, 12:54 PM

fungie are you in the military yet?