jamisz

Your worried about pulling aggro? Then your not MT? Then WTF ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT??

Couch

You will deal a lot more dps than guardian with your mythical epic since you have best dps proc, both crit and DA. Though, you are not going to pull aggro unless you intend to do so.

Zeuhl

Because with no survivability I can't do my job as OT you fucking jackass. And when our MT can't make a raid guess who is the MT? Or does that require too much damn thought? Pull your head outta you ass and think for 2 seconds.

jamisz

Zerkers are surviving thru VP now, so with this new mythical weapon thats just not gonna happen eh?

Dont come to the guardian forums looking for sympathy, and quit swearing before I tell yo momma n00b

Noren

WoW, you just aren't getting it man. It's a shame cause the main point of this thread was not to start an agruement with people, but just to see how easy the transition was from zerk to guard.

How you don't see a problem here is just astonishing.

Our epic basically consists of double attack...well most zerks can already obtain 100% da or right around it solo and easily with a dirge. Why do we need more of something we don't need to begin with?


We may be able to out dps a guard but is it on the same scale that a guard can out survive us?

Anyway I'm leavin work, bottom line is like you said you chose Guard cause you want the surviability and do less dps. I chose Zerk cause of the less surviability but dish out a lot more punishment. That is not the case. Hence, you are going to see many zerkers betray and become guardians and there is going to be a lot more competition out there.

I'ma give this a week cause I love my Zerk and wish to remain it.

Arlen Bouldersmi

so tell me - do want to DPS or do you want Survivability???

true - us guards can do some dps, but we have to in order to hold aggro, if you are playing the same game I am, defensive stance is not an option when your scouts/mages parsing 4-6k per mob. even then, in an optimal grp setup, im doing 1900 - 2400 per fight. a zerk that is skilled can easily outparse that. You guys got a weapon that helps you dps more, if you want the survivability , then you should have rolled a guard.

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jamisz

With this new mythical weapon your probably gonna be top 3 on the parse at all times unless you totally suck, so yes your going to out dps just as much as we can out survive you.

And if your at 100% DA with your gear and a dirge heres a tip, but dont tell everyone ok?

--replace all your BS double attack gear with defensive gear to up your survivability----

WHOA WHAT A CONCEPT!

Amuga

I want all the Guards to stop and think about this next paragraph for one moment.

If there aren't anymore Zerks around, where are they all going to go? Either they a) mainchange (like I did when rok was released) b) quit c) betray to guardian. Well guess what, lets just say there 100 more guards running around on each server, competing for one MT and one OT spot, assuming its not filled by a paladin. How then does that not affect you guards?

- Less spots available in guilds capable of clearing VP.

- More Guards rolling on your gear(not to mention the other three classes that need the same armor mold)

- Intensified scrutiny of raid performance, not to mention decreased ability to have any clout in your guild due to the fact that you can be easily replaced.

SoE has relegated zerkers to being only good at 2 types of encounters in RoK: Korsha Overking and Avatars, the latter being accessible be really only 1-2% of guards WW. Would you be slightly pissed if you were only useful for a small amount of raid content? I think so.

Jamisz, pull your head out of your ass and take a look at the big picture here. Zerkers aren't just whining for the sake of it, there are legitmate reasoning and facts behind everything they are saying. If you don't believe me, I will be more than happy to show you threads of suggestions upon suggestions of ideas the zerk community has come up with in order to make the class playable again; and you will even come to learn that they don't want to see guards nerfed. They just want to be the best at what they were designed for. Fuck, the one ability they get that even gave them a shot at tanking raids in rok, adrenaline, was nerfed back into oblivion. It doesn't get any worse then the turn of events that have taken place in the last year or so for this class.

Zeuhl

The point was that guards are getting the best of both worlds with 1 weapon. Yes zerks will probably out DPS guards and many others with our new epic but only on AoE encounters. How many multiple encounters are there now? So now I have a situational weapon for dps and the same survivablity I had before while guards are getting some dps and even more defense.

I don't have an issue with guards in general and I'm glad you guys got an awesome epic. You guys will wield your epic at all times. Us? Sometimes...

My apologies if this thread kinda got derailed.

And Jamisz I can swear when I want to. Fuck fuckity fuck fuck. You might still live with your mom but that's not the case for all of us.

Noren

[quote=jamisz;459829]With this new mythical weapon your probably gonna be top 3 on the parse at all times unless you totally suck, so yes your going to out dps just as much as we can out survive you.

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wow, I gotta laugh at this statement....top 3 huh? have you seen some of the dps weapons that came out? I am done talking to you now.