Mojozen

Hey all,

Was wondering where you all put moderate. As raid tank I usually just stick it on the swash/assassin/hate transfer in the group. But I'm wondering if the reduction in hate occurs before or after I get the transfer if you follow my thinking.

For eg. if I'm getting 16% of the swash's 1k dps (easy numbers for the math) that's 160 hate to me. With moderate on him do I still get 160 hate transfer OR.... '160 - 36%' from moderate?......OR does the moderate come off his left over 840?.....Confused?, I am


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Souldreamer

I always put it on my defiler.
I assumed it would reduce the agro of the Transfer if you put it on the MT Swash/Ass so I never do.

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Frogweiser

I always understood it as dps > xfer > hate reduction (wether from gear / proc / moderate) so i always have it on the assassin / swash in MT group.

Could be totally wrong, but thats just how i understand it, maybe pinski will drop by and lay the smack down on this thread.

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Judist

From what I've seen, I believe transfer is applied and what remains is moderated.

Delmont

When I am in Offtank group I put it on my assassin.

No more "DROP IT CANNA"' in '08 nps!

Ower

I always put it on the templar or defiler. Imo you dont want your hate transfers to have low hate gain...

Conqueror_Beld

Since there's no good info out there on how it stacks with xfer, I just stick it on the dirge. He'll pull aggro before a healer does, and he sometimes pulls so the extra avoidance check probably does something...maybe...

Thorren

ALWAYS on the Defiler.

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Mojozen

From what I've seen the defiler is only ever gonna grb agro on the pull, usually a body pull at that, due to wards. That's pretty easily dealt with by his single target fear/hate reducer (fear doesn't work on epics but hate reducer does), so maybe I'll try it on the dirge. Will experiment and see.

Thanx for input all.

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Furcube

There's no time to cast deagro on pull. And taunt can be resisted.