SirAmoel

Hey there!

I will dual post here and on the official boards, to get the best number/quality of answers in a rather short time.

So, I made a guardian. At level 22 I gave him some steel to play with and he holds like a champ agains anything you can throw.

Holding aggro is a nightmare. So I took taunting challenge as T3 M2 choice. Helped quite a bit, but still...

So, now for the question. Where do I stuff my first, say, 50 AA points?

I recon there won't be a hard and fast rule, but if someone could say what was useful pre-70 for him, that would be nice. I'm primarily looking into improving my hate gain while not sacrificing that much defense.

Thanks in advance.

luka

hm. i think my choice with 50 (51) points would be something like

str 446
agi 446
int 46482

so you got a pretty nice amount of crit, an additional ae and ae attack for groups, your combat arts have a shorter recast timer, you got additional haste almost every time, and you spent your 8 points in parry, because you wanted some defense.

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salle

Depending on which content you primaraly fight single target mobs go for STR 448 INT 48822 then start thinking about the Stamina line.
But if you fight multi target encounters alot (or if that's the key problem) then go with Luka's suggestion.

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Ower

As long as you dont raid tank go for

str 4488 int 44882

imo that is. since the hate gain will aid you nice if you dont roll with a hate gain class all the time. And both maxed out in parry and haste on the int line will give you alot imo..

SirAmoel

I was actually told by another guardian that the STA line is not something I should care about, and instead use a str-agi-int build and get myself a tower shield.

After thinking about it myself and spending hours looking at the aa abilities, and taking notes, making point sums all over, I made myself these builds:

50aa single
STR 4-4-8-8
INT 4-4-7-8-2

50aa multi
STR 4-4-8-1
AGI 4-4-8
INT 4-4-6-2


I have enough time to think about the other 40 aa's I'll spend after 70.

Tell me what you think. I plan to do mostly group play, being the mt for heroic content and such. Probably going to raid at some point, but I don't really bother with that right now.

Ower

Sta is the best line for hate gain and dps tho. but since you dident want to give up the avoidance i dident count that one. the last on the str line is not something you should have at all... since it kinda much sucks. Your healers shouldent let you drop down that low in HP.

SirAmoel

I'm not taking the last one in str. That's one point in hate gain. Could have stuffed it into parry or attack speed too.

So while on some I'm being told not to bother with the sta line, others recomend it. I guess the only way to really know is trying out myself.

For the next tier, I'll try to get a tower shield *and* a buckler, get myself a mirror, and try doing the same places with both specs, one doing the str thing, one doing the sta thing.

I don't really want to give up on the int line. I *might* give up the agi line to get back the crit from str though.

I should go try out some of the stuff Hal said in the guardian guide too.

Thanks folks =)

Ower

i dont see anyone here not recomend it tho... the Sta line is VERY nice.

salle

Going STA gives you 60% more auto attack DPS, and the cost is usualy less than 5% avoidance.

So let's say your dps is made up of 50% auto attack dps and 50% CA dps. That means that a STA build gives a 30% increase of your over all dps. even if it's more like 25%-75% then it's a 15% increase. Which still is three times more than the cost. Meaning in the end per mob you'll take significantly less damage because you kill them quicker.

The benefits of the stamina line is also clear in groups, more DPS = more aggro controll which actually means less job for a healer even if he has to heal you up to 5% more.

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Fouk

Bindwound = 1
STA 4488 = 24
STR 448 = 16

Sum = 41

This setup will fix your hate issues, hehe.

Then start on either:

AGI = survivability (defense, reflexes and an xtra aoe for reinforcement)
INT = mix of dps and survivability (parry is easier to max in groups with Dirge though).

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