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Old 05-23-2008, 05:49 PM  
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You sound like your mom while I was doing her last night. Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck.

yea she's a dirty girl. BONG!
Huh-oh! You just E-whipped my ass didin't you?
Are you in 4th grade? "You sound like your mom..." are you kidding you lame ass piece of shit? You came on here, stated your opinion, and how it was the gospel, and how you knew all of this stuff that no one else did, and it was all wrong. You stupid waste of space, you got owned, told just how wrong you were, and you have no way to defend yourself but revert to an elementary school comeback used by little kids when they can't think of a logical response, basicly, the ultimate bitch move. I wouldn't really expect less though. Ultimately you know your wrong, and now you feel like the retard you are for making a useless post and for being pointed out as one ecause of your own actions. Come back and talk when you think of a comeback that makes any sense bitch.
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Old 05-23-2008, 06:33 PM  
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Funny I dont remebr saying it was gospil, I did however say there are more choices then one, you however stated the opposite saying there is only one choice hence your the one spouting gospil.







































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Old 05-23-2008, 07:04 PM  
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He spelled gospel for you in his post, yet you come right back and use "gospil". You mock those guards who hit 3K+ ZW with auto-attack. You hit <enter> 50 times to insert a sneaky "FUCKTARD" at the end of your post.

These are all ingredients for epic fail.

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Old 05-23-2008, 08:25 PM  
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You are an idiot, considering that assassins dps comes mainly from HIGH DAMAGE attacks u stupid fuck, its different than guards or serks.
As a serk about 55-65% of my dps on raids is from auto attack.
For assassins huge casting and reuse is way better than stuff that affects auto attacks.
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You really are retarted you useless sack of shit.
Do you no understand the difference between warriors and assassins?
Its not that hard to comprehend, Assassins have huge hitting CAs, look at assasins parses, what like 30% comes from auto attack, well guards and serks,(especially serks) have way weaker CAs. Most of our damage comes from auto attack, that is why DA, Crit, DPS mod, and haste help us way more than CA mod. Now shut the fuck up and learn somthing about your class before you make a stupid fucking post on here telling everyone how you know all this about how buckler sucks, and maxing ranged crit is uber, when you don't know shit.

Hell even look at the parse above, the hemo from the assasin did more damage than any of his CAs, as it always does, there's a prime fucking example.
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Huh-oh! You just E-whipped my ass didin't you?
Are you in 4th grade? "You sound like your mom..." are you kidding you lame ass piece of shit? You came on here, stated your opinion, and how it was the gospel, and how you knew all of this stuff that no one else did, and it was all wrong. You stupid waste of space, you got owned, told just how wrong you were, and you have no way to defend yourself but revert to an elementary school comeback used by little kids when they can't think of a logical response, basicly, the ultimate bitch move. I wouldn't really expect less though. Ultimately you know your wrong, and now you feel like the retard you are for making a useless post and for being pointed out as one ecause of your own actions. Come back and talk when you think of a comeback that makes any sense bitch.


Point out to me in which post I "Stated the opposite saying there is only one choice..."

All I have stated thus far is:
You have no idea what your talking about.
You cannot understand the difference between warriors and assassins.
You are completely wrong in thinking reuse/recovery is more beneficial that DA/Crit/DPS mod/Haste.
Warriors do more damage from auto attack than CAs.
As far as there being only one choice for aas, no theres not, but the most popular one is str/sta/int which is the best imo and most popular, wilth slight variations. The ones you suggest however are shit, just like your calculations in original post, and your grasp of the guardian class vs assassin, just like your ability to come up with a response worth a shit.

You however do say in these posts (what I was referring to when I said GospEl)


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I sure do believe 37% reuse and 60% recoverys is better then ANYTHING you can do to your autoattacks. This incluses double attacks, crits, and Poisons, go on over to assassin forums and take a peek they figured this one out a long time ago (why do you think agil/repeated stabbing is highest DPS build for a Sin?)

And go berserker, pffft why not just shoot myself in the foot while im at it.
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So you say 28% of your overall dmg was from melee auto-attacks. So 62% was from CA's then? (lets omit procs for sake of argument as they should be minimal increase)

If so you just summed up my point, Guard like EVERY OTHER CLASS does more dmg with combat arts then auto attacking.
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if your doing 55-65% of your dmg in raid from auto attacks lolz dont bring this fuckwit on your raid he is just wasting a slot.
You say that reuse/recovery is better than any auto attack modifiers, you also say that "...guards like every other class do more damage with combat arts than with auto attacking". This is the gospel i was referring to you idiot.

Oh, and concerning my "Fuckwit" status and being "a waste of a slot", I challenge you, to out tank, or out dps me in a group or raid setting, once of course you reach level cap u fucking noob.

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Old 05-23-2008, 10:51 PM  
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Kelstat - Kirgoth: 0-1

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Old 05-24-2008, 11:43 AM  
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So you say 28% of your overall dmg was from melee auto-attacks. So 62% was from CA's then? (lets omit procs for sake of argument as they should be minimal increase)

If so you just summed up my point, Guard like EVERY OTHER CLASS does more dmg with combat arts then auto attacking.

Roughly 65-75% of our damage comes from Autoattack. You're simply ignorant to that fact. You dont spam CAs like an assassin, or pretty much any other class for that matter.

Stop being so ignorant and thinking you know best. Do more research, because you clearly havent or you'd have alreayd realized autoattack is our heavily primary source of dps and as such there is MUCH manipulation you can do to your AA trees and +dps and +haste etc. adornments to enhance autoattack.

GO betray your ass to a ranger and see what we mean.
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Old 05-25-2008, 07:03 AM  
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If my newb guard opinion counts in this flamewar, MY parses show roughly 60% of dps comes from autoattack. And that's with quite a few master CAs.
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:05 PM  
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Kelstat - Kirgoth: 0-4

/gets his popcorn
corrected,

oh and allthough im not a guard, any idiot knows auto attack damage is king for all plate fighters in teir 8, figuer if your hitting for 6k auto attack with 3 second delay (asumming you have decent haste and a nice 6 second delay wep) and with 50% dbl attak from the sta line even at 75% hit rate your still pulling over 2k dps auto attack. without any intricate knowlage of warrior aa lines, any moron who plays the class should beable to figuer that out, hell im a moron who doesent play the class and i figuered that out

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Old 05-28-2008, 06:06 AM  
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Epic fail. Omg.
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Old 06-05-2008, 02:00 PM  
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WHy the hell drop buckler...
Im currentlly
448 str
4488 sta
44862 int

With this setup (and my slaughter tree maxed) i was able to parse around 2.3k on trash in SoH and thats with my legendary gear...

Dropping the buckler double attack for haste dont make any sence IMO

Agi line i have found to be more than useless except for dragoons reflexes which came in handy sometimes

Also when you get mythical removes sheild req from buckler line but thats far away for me anyways....
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