Trollita

Before explaining my " problem ", i will explain my stuff and AA's.
I have no T1 helm, months without seeing it drop, i am using adorned VG and green dragon depending on AA's and fight.

We are beginning with VP, something like 4 pulls on Druushk put it to 70%, but i felt i was heavily punished. Prior to engaging Druushk, i changed my AA's to test out a maximum defensive setting.

Agi / Int / str lines.

With that setting, i was suprised to see that i was only blocking 7% of the incoming attacks. I know AA's won't help green dragon, but 7% is pretty low.

I prepared another AA setting to test it out, but yesterday we did leviathan and some lower stuff to flag people.

I checked my avoidance parses after these fights and i was suprise with the numbers.

My AA's were Sta, int, agi, wearing VG.

On leviathan, less than 6% of incoming attacks were blocked. ( i was using agi potion and dodge food ).

On Overking, 4.97% were blocked.

On Tairiza, 1 block out of 103 attacks, which was at inc with block up.

On all these fights, bruiser and templar were protecting me.

I was wondering why block would be so low, even without helm and such.

On all these fights, parry was around 17 - 21% and riposte around 9 - 12%.

Add to that brawler and templar avoidance, i was wondering if all these things could explain such a small block amount.

If anyone could help to better understand that, it would be great ;) .

Paikis

It's because Block isnt checked first. Pretty sure Parry is. Ripostes are just parry checks as well. so 100%(all attacks) - (Parry%+Riposte%) = 100 - ~30 = 70% of attacks are getting past your parry check. I'm not sure if block is next, or your base avoidance (Def) but let's say block is next. you're blocking about 6% of that 70% of attacks that are getting past your parry. 7/70=10% actualy block chance.

It doesn't work exactly like that, but that's the basic idea.

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Trollita

Well, even taking into account that i wear 2x3% parry with T1 pauldrons and 3% riposte adorn on my sword, it still does not explain completely why block is that low.

Even with parry being applied earlier ( and i know it is ), some hits get through obviously. We had a 3min30 fight on Tairiza yesterday, i got attacked 103 times. On these 103 times, about 75% where defeated one way or another. But, still, 1 block on 103 attacks, and that is using block AA and offensive stance, which lowers parry / defense, seems a tad bit low ;) .

Anyway, next Druushk, i am gonna keep buckler to see if i avoid more than with the adorned green dragon shield .

Lizerd Keng

curious where you are getting your numbers from. That is really low. When using act, are you right clicking on your name and "get avoidance report", or are you calculating the block yourslef using some other method. Remember you can't block magic types (including the new focus) of damage. And I don't think the order that block is checked matters, since my displayed block % in persona is about the same as act says in the avoidance report (plus or minus maybe 2).

SirAmoel

What avoidance report? Been looking around ACT for a while and can't seem to find it.

I look under incoming damage, there's a column that says "to hit %". So say I see a 60% there, that's 40% avoidance for me.

Frogweiser

Under the encounter tab, click your name, then right click at the bottom of the tab that opens you will see "Avoidance Report"

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Trollita

This is, indeed, from avoidance report, so, not including non mélée attacks.

Been to VP again since these parses and tried the buckler spec on Kluzen and Ekron. About 74 77% total avoidance on each with 11% block 14% parry and 12.5% riposte from myself.

I actually block about twice as much with VG on than with adorned green dragon. Add to that the riposte AA, it helps a lot. I still can't explain such low parses on block with green dragon.

Opening avoidance report to see 1/103 for blocks is pretty scary ;) .

Odii

Are you having positioning problems with the mob?

If you are not facing the mob (like a lot of sloppy tanks do) you won't block shit.

Also, with mobs this large, sometimes you can be standing underthem and face the same way (again, having your back to them) which will cause you to not block.

1/103 is horrible.

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Frogweiser

Yeah i would really like to see a pic of your avoidance report from AcT, because 1/103 as stated above, is fucking horrid. If you still want to kick around reports, when i get home ill post a random one of SoH last night. Or if there is a particular encounter you would like to compare let me know.

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Trollita

The 1/103 was on Tairiza, always in front, of course ;)

These are the parses on the same evening, AA spec was AGI INT and str for crits. Using adorned Green dragon shield.

Switched back to buckler for our second set of trys on druushk, he is down to 25% two times and it was a lot less stressed on the healers side, avoiding a lot more with VG.

Attached the reports for you, the mobs went down, i avoided well, but just blocked a lot less than usual, and even if block applies last, it does not explain such a low block rate, especially on tairiza. ( Def stance on selrack and levia, off on tairiza. )

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