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Old 06-28-2008, 09:15 PM  
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I'm waiting another day to respec when it resets to 10 sp. Then I figured I'd try three different specs. Going tower shield spec until I can get my defensive gear from chardok.

4485 str, 4488 agi, 4488 int for tower spec
then after I get my tank gear, because right now I'm in DPS gear I'll go
448 str 4488 sta 4488 int 41 agi.

So I figure I'll be running tower shield specc'ed for about a month while I run chardok quests and farm names for more +parry gear. If I was richer, or had more time to play to get richer I'd have all my gear adorned already as well. But with college my play time has dramatically been reduced.
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Old 06-30-2008, 11:42 PM  
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I'm thinking about picking up the tower shield with the hate gain / daze proc, and going. The hate proc works up to level 90 mobs I think.

Agility - 6, 4, 4, 8, 2 (For the 10 sec perma parry)
Wisdom - 4, 4, 4, 8 (For max mitigation)
Int. 4, 4, 8, 8 (For max parry)
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:24 AM  
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For damage, I wonder why people aren't going.

4,4,8 Strength
5,8,8 Stamina
4,4,8 Wisdom
4,4,8 Intelligence

The end line in strength would be awesome if you can maintain less than 50% health.

I'm probably going to work with this, and the above spec and see how I like them.
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D'ya think that maybe there's 2 forums full of warriors saying WIS SUCKS! for a reason maybe? The absolute most you want in the WIS line is 4-1 or if you REALLY like the mit debuff, 4-8.

Try this spec instead:
STR 4-4-8
STA 4-4-8-8
WIS 4-1
INT 4-6-4-8-2

Oh, and forget about mitigation. As long as you're wearing plate armor, your mit will be fine, concentrate on avoidance. (obviously take the higher mit if there is no other deciding factor)
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:19 AM  
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D'ya think that maybe there's 2 forums full of warriors saying WIS SUCKS! for a reason maybe? The absolute most you want in the WIS line is 4-1 or if you REALLY like the mit debuff, 4-8.

Try this spec instead:
STR 4-4-8
STA 4-4-8-8
WIS 4-1
INT 4-6-4-8-2

Oh, and forget about mitigation. As long as you're wearing plate armor, your mit will be fine, concentrate on avoidance. (obviously take the higher mit if there is no other deciding factor)
Dude, I started solo'n in RoK at 65, when I finished the Sokokar quest. I'm killing orange con mobs in RoK with 70%-80% health left. That's with my DPS spec, so it's pretty sound. The mitigation debuff plus the DPS mod, seems to add more than I expected in damage with the NEW FIVE SECOND WEAPONS!!!

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Old 07-01-2008, 06:10 PM  
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Dude, I started solo'n in RoK at 65, when I finished the Sokokar quest. I'm killing orange con mobs in RoK with 70%-80% health left. That's with my DPS spec, so it's pretty sound. The mitigation debuff plus the DPS mod, seems to add more than I expected in damage with the NEW FIVE SECOND WEAPONS!!!
Please explain how you at 65 could solo an orange mob with over 50 AA in Warrior line. Id like to know how thats done. Sorry im calling bs. Guards can solo but not that well. Not trying to showoff epeen but I can solo very well and even I cannot take down a orange mob that easy.

But hey its a RPG play it as you will. If whatever spec you may have had and have now may work for you use it. It obviously does not work as well for others.

Not to mention lets say you do in fact go down the WIS line just 4-1, when you are fighting an orange con mob actually knocking them down is pretty damn rare(even with masters if that actually affects it at all), so that mit down buff will be useless almost all the time. So again calling bs.
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Old 07-01-2008, 07:38 PM  
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Well, my DPS isn't all that great, aggro seems about the same, still popping reinforcement, rescue, sentinel sphere about as often. But my healers are able to keep me up a lot more easily, and this morning I was able to kill a quest named lvl 74^^^ in fens solo.

Odd thing though, duel wielding, my DPS drops a ton even with 59% melee crit self buffed over when I wear a tower shield. I use the fabled epic and the fabled axe that drops in SoH off the trash. Another odd thing, with my DPS gear I get 55% melee crit, 57% as soon as I get the runnyeye buckler, and my DPS sits around 1500 in a non-stacked group, all ad3 CAs. In my tank gear I sit on 44% melee crit, and in same group, sit on 1500 DPS. That's going half CoA DPS set gear and the other half my tank set.
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Please explain how you at 65 could solo an orange mob with over 50 AA in Warrior line. Id like to know how thats done. Sorry im calling bs. Guards can solo but not that well. Not trying to showoff epeen but I can solo very well and even I cannot take down a orange mob that easy.

But hey its a RPG play it as you will. If whatever spec you may have had and have now may work for you use it. It obviously does not work as well for others.

Not to mention lets say you do in fact go down the WIS line just 4-1, when you are fighting an orange con mob actually knocking them down is pretty damn rare(even with masters if that actually affects it at all), so that mit down buff will be useless almost all the time. So again calling bs.
In his post he never said he had over 50 AA at 65, and I'm assuming he meant his DPS spec at the time. Only thing I can think of is that he was wearing T6 fabled gear when he started soloing in RoK though. I know in full EoF legendary those mobs were kicking my ass at 70 and 71.
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Please explain how you at 65 could solo an orange mob with over 50 AA in Warrior line. Id like to know how thats done. Sorry im calling bs. Guards can solo but not that well. Not trying to showoff epeen but I can solo very well and even I cannot take down a orange mob that easy.

But hey its a RPG play it as you will. If whatever spec you may have had and have now may work for you use it. It obviously does not work as well for others.

Not to mention lets say you do in fact go down the WIS line just 4-1, when you are fighting an orange con mob actually knocking them down is pretty damn rare(even with masters if that actually affects it at all), so that mit down buff will be useless almost all the time. So again calling bs.
I don't have over 50 AA in the line, YET! That's the spec I'm going for. I never once said that is what I have now.. I just hit 70 by the way, and will have that spec.

It's all in proc's and gear.. I'm not in the level 72 gear yet, but there are procs out there that make a huge difference. The Shiny Brass Shield + the Tribunal cloak means what you fight will be stun'd for at least half the fight, not to mention other stuff you can get as well. And even thought he shield resist increases on mobs above level 65, the stun sticks very well on mobs up to level 74, from there, it sucks.

You don't go down Wisdom for the Mit buff, you go down it for the DPS increase. Coupled with the new 5 second weapons it's a huge boost to DPS, something I learned on my Ranger with slower weapons.

Equal level, only wizards are out parsing me right now with the new 5 second weapons. And even then, not often.

When was the last time, you old timers tried something new, with these new 4-6 second delay weapons?

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Old 07-02-2008, 12:25 AM  
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You do realize weapon delay had almost zero impact on dps (other than picking a delay best suited for timing CA's).

Its the spread on the new weapons that doesn't suck (aka low delay weapons with uber spreads still rock).
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