AA Changes (Warrior Tree) in TSO - Page 2

Halbarad · 11-03-2008, 07:36 PM

Thanks Spetz for the screenshots!

Any chance we could get more info about the updated end abilities? I heard or read somewhere they changed the str end line ability?

For the Mythical discussion, may I point you folks here?
http://www.eq2flames.com/guardians/3...pic-worth.html

Please come up with your aa spec and reasons for it if you aren't seeing yours already in the top post.

Thanks in advance.

Deule · 11-03-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stout

riposte damage is HUGE.............

Well, good luck trying to get your wep boosted even more, but it isn't going to happen. Now it is on par with every other mythical out there for plates.

Ower · 11-03-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Deule

Well, good luck trying to get your wep boosted even more, but it isn't going to happen. Now it is on par with every other mythical out there for plates.

Par with every other?? put down the fucking crack pipe... The guard epic went from the moste OP one to the worse of them all. The epic is not even mythical now... tell me how in hell is that fucking epic par with the others????

Deule · 11-03-2008, 10:25 PM

No the Mythical went from extremely OP to equal to the other Mythicals. You are right, no other Mythical added nearly as much as what the Guard one did...which was as you said OP. Now they basically made some of the things that made it good, BUT, it still retained the best tanking part of the weapon. IMMUNE to riposte! No matter how much a mob decides to riposte, no matter how much damage ripostes do...Guards will never have to worry about it. I would still call that a pretty damn good ability on a weapon. Stat wise it is equal to the other tank weapons. It has the 5% damage absorption and now it has the clicky effect.

Now take a look at the other tank weapons...well SK that is arguably the weakest fighter epic out there. The clicky...an 8 sec Peel that can be overwritten by Peel and reinforcement that absorbs hits more than 60% damage. The proc...a weak ass damage proc...OH and instead of there being a perma ability instead it is a proc that increases hate based off of lifetap healing...yeah I would take the immunity to riposte.

The fact of the matter is the weapon is still a great weapon. It is just not as good as it was...which as even you stated was OP'd. Its funny, because it seems like just yesterday I was getting into it with you and that tool Guapo about all of these issues that have finally come to a head. Did you really think that SOE was going to leave Guards miles ahead of all the other tanks in the game forever? LoL.

Anap KaSplat · 11-04-2008, 12:32 AM

Unless a mob is specifically designed to riposte a certain % of the time, or specifically designed to riposte at certain places in their scripts, who really gives a crap about immunity to riposte?

I think you're putting way too much emphasis on being immune to riposte damage. Aside from the aforementioned situations, mobs don't riposte (me) often enough for it to really make a difference in the long run.

guapo1 · 11-04-2008, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Deule

You guys act like the Mythical is worthless now and you are completely over-looking the best ability on the weapon. The fact that you are still the only tank that is completely immune to riposte damage is huge. Stop acting like you need you're Mythical revamped when the fact remains it is still one of the nicer tank Mythical's out there.

Dude i told you this before lay of the crack pipe.I feel the power of an ability that is used on what one or 2 mobs. Unless tso decides to have all mobs reposte it really is not shit.Get a fucking clue or stfu.

Jokael · 11-04-2008, 02:42 AM

I think the SKs need to take their Emo Vampire RP bullshit whining back to the Blood Haze Inn and GTFO of the guard forums.

Ower · 11-04-2008, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Deule

No the Mythical went from extremely OP to equal to the other Mythicals. You are right, no other Mythical added nearly as much as what the Guard one did...which was as you said OP. Now they basically made some of the things that made it good, BUT, it still retained the best tanking part of the weapon. IMMUNE to riposte! No matter how much a mob decides to riposte, no matter how much damage ripostes do...Guards will never have to worry about it. I would still call that a pretty damn good ability on a weapon. Stat wise it is equal to the other tank weapons. It has the 5% damage absorption and now it has the clicky effect.

Now take a look at the other tank weapons...well SK that is arguably the weakest fighter epic out there. The clicky...an 8 sec Peel that can be overwritten by Peel and reinforcement that absorbs hits more than 60% damage. The proc...a weak ass damage proc...OH and instead of there being a perma ability instead it is a proc that increases hate based off of lifetap healing...yeah I would take the immunity to riposte.

The fact of the matter is the weapon is still a great weapon. It is just not as good as it was...which as even you stated was OP'd. Its funny, because it seems like just yesterday I was getting into it with you and that tool Guapo about all of these issues that have finally come to a head. Did you really think that SOE was going to leave Guards miles ahead of all the other tanks in the game forever? LoL.

Did me and guapo say back then that the epic wasent OP? no... All we said back that was that we dident get 60% DA on the epic... since moste guard would have raided with buckler anyway... we got more avoidance with the sta Line thats all.. And that is fucking uber... But never said anything about the epic not being fucking uber! That was kinda much what top end guards needed to still not be gimped with a buckler on avatar... And since our taunts suck balls dps was the only way to go to keep aggro.

Other than that the only other shit you and me have talked about is the DW shit for crusaders... and even then you was acting like a fucking nut... both me and guapo said back then that crusaders shouldent DW. But they need to change the damage on 2handers to be somewhere near DW. Pls go to the SK board and ty and help your fucking class.... Dont come here and make a fool out of yourself.. And miles away from the other tanks? i think the changes was needed. Im glad that SK:s got some love. Since they was kinda much ignored. i dont have any problem at all with the new AA atm. Only problem i have atm is with our mythical that blow atm.

Ower · 11-04-2008, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ower

Did me and guapo say back then that the epic wasent OP? no... All we said back then was that we dident get 60% DA on the epic... since moste guard would have raided with buckler anyway... we got more avoidance with the sta Line thats all.. And that is fucking uber... But never said anything about the epic not being fucking uber! That was kinda much what top end guards needed to still not be gimped with a buckler on avatar... And since our taunts suck balls dps was the only way to go to keep aggro.

Other than that the only other shit you and me have talked about is the DW shit for crusaders... and even then you was acting like a fucking nut... both me and guapo said back then that crusaders shouldent DW. But they need to change the damage on 2handers to be somewhere near DW. Pls go to the SK board and ty and help your fucking class.... Dont come here and make a fool out of yourself.. And miles away from the other tanks? i think the changes was needed. Im glad that SK:s got some love. Since they was kinda much ignored. i dont have any problem at all with the new AA atm. Only problem i have atm is with our mythical that blow atm.

guapo1 · 11-04-2008, 09:54 AM

Lol quoted yourself for emp? heh.Must have been mistake.