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Old 11-11-2008, 08:58 PM  
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Default Re: Your opinions on the Guardian Mythical.

I would go ahead and like to say that effect is ungodly. Stop bitching.
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:36 PM  
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Immunity on the main proc as 2.4/12s and the 5% made a permanent effect would seem like a nice final change...
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Old 11-12-2008, 01:12 AM  
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This kind of stuff needs to be discussed on the official boards to have any real effect on our weapon =/
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Old 11-12-2008, 02:17 AM  
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This kind of stuff needs to be discussed on the official boards to have any real effect on our weapon =/


If only 2 thirds of the guard population did not get banned from official boards we would have much better chance at getting things implemented.As it stands right now all guard threads get swamped with zerkers talking shit.
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Old 11-12-2008, 05:08 AM  
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i gave it a try and posted a small suggestion on how to change the proc and make the damage reduction static and add a small hate ability. perhaps it wont get flamed away by zerkers.
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Old 11-12-2008, 06:38 AM  
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It's perhaps worth noting as I did in the other thread that currently AE autoattacks trigger procs, and since a lot of the expansion is apparently AE encounters, the proc would be up more than 18 seconds every minute at 1.8/10s. In fact since haste boosts it too, I'd prolly expect it to be up near constantly against 4 targets. So assuming these AE encounters are packed with mobs that stun/stifle/fear/daze etc. it could be extremely good at letting us dps and keep aggro on group encounters compared to other fighters.
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Old 11-12-2008, 09:16 PM  
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Double post sry.

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It's perhaps worth noting as I did in the other thread that currently AE autoattacks trigger procs, and since a lot of the expansion is apparently AE encounters, the proc would be up more than 18 seconds every minute at 1.8/10s. In fact since haste boosts it too, I'd prolly expect it to be up near constantly against 4 targets. So assuming these AE encounters are packed with mobs that stun/stifle/fear/daze etc. it could be extremely good at letting us dps and keep aggro on group encounters compared to other fighters.


It says this spell can be modified by direct means.So haste and buffs from others can increases its proc chance , and make duration longer?
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Old 11-12-2008, 10:04 PM  
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Haste has affected proc chance since the last proc rate overhaul. The number you see (e.g. 1.8/min) is compared to the delay of the weapon (3s) and the game generates a % chance per swing. Increasing the speed at which you swing will increase the rate at which the weapon procs.

'Can only be modifed by direct means' is confusing wording that basically means the proc rate cannot be increased by buffs that directly increase proc rate (blessings, luck of the dirge, etc.). However since the proc ultimately boils down to the game rolling a dice on a fixed ~9% chance every successful attack (it calculates 20 attacks / minute with 3s delay and then works out what % 1.8 is of 20), increasing the number of successful attacks will increase the number of procs. The exception is double attacks which are ignored for procs, and in this case combat arts too since it's 'on a successful melee attack' rather than 'on a successful attack'.
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Old 11-13-2008, 12:45 AM  
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Ah okay thats what i thought.Currently on my guard im running self buffed around 70 % haste.So if this is the case the higher our haste the more the proc sweet.
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