Guldor

so this is the new TSO tree. thx souldreamer for takingh the screens and posting it.

since we have to spend at least 10 points in the general sub tree i will start there (general is not listed but its not worth much anyway):
extra health seems like a no brainer.
i am still debating if i should take double harvest chance or extra power. in a raid power is not a problem for me anyway.

lets get to the fighter sub tree:
the increase to our defensive stance, the ward and the final ability seem to be the things to get for sure in this tree. swinging strike might be an option if we got any points left in the end.

warrior sub tree:
the extra mitigation on our def stance, the extra damage on our grp buff and the final ability are once again abilities to spend points in.
the stun resist and the shield slam are abilities to consider if any points are left over in the end.

guardian sub tree:
extra health, strikethrough, increased decimate and the two final abilities are the way to go in here i think.
aoe increase and wall of force increase are for spare points to spend in.

so with that all said and done i got 51 points spend already.
so the remaining 9 points will go into either:
swinging strike, shield slam, absorbing blows, strategic assault or guardian's will.

so what do you think about the new aa tree and how would you specc in it ?

Ower

extra health = no brain??? you would have no brain if you not took that one...

Guldor

no brainer = you dont even have to think about taking it. you just do it.
so yeah taking health is what you do.

Ower

Ah k then i get what you ment!

keldo

Here's my plan which might change depending on how things shake out:

Health / Mount Speed - General (10)
Swinging Strike / Battle Hardening / Sneering Assault - Fighter (11)
Stun Resist / Rallying Cry Enhance / Cry of the Warrior - Warrior (11)
Decimate Enhance / Assault Enhance / Strikethrough / Guardian's Will / Sentinel Strike / Defensive Minded - 24

4 Left over for whatever I feel like.

Geekyone

Battle Hardening @ 1 rank gives you 50 HP's. So @ 5 ranks gives you, what, 250 HP's. Thats a waste of 5 points. Lame. I won't be taking that.

Fighter - Swinging strik = 5 / Riposte Mastery = 5 / Maybe Snearing Assult if I got junk points left.
Warrior - Shield Slam = 5 / Vetrens Shielding = 5 / Maybe Agressive Nature if I got joint points left.
Guardian - Added Constitution = 5 / Decimate = 5 / Guardians Will = 5 / Definsive Minded = 5

That puts me at 50 points.

Guldor

geekyone why are you taking so many bad abilities ?
riposte mastery is perhaps the worst in the tree not counting the general branch. our riposte damage is next to nothing and you increase it by 25%. wont make it any better.
swingings trike and shield slam while perhaps not really bad they still dont increase your damgage too much. you could spend those points better. agressive nature does not really help since we are not blocking that much.

if you want to increase your dps try rallying cry.
battle hardening is a constant ward. everything that makes us take more damage is more than welcome imho. thats also why conssumate defense is not bad. we will have to use our defensive stance way more this expansion.

snearing assault and cry of the warrior are well worth the 2 points it takes to get both. and defensive minded only costs 2 points not 5.

have you even tested the new aas in beta yet ?

Geekyone

Ahh, dammit, riposte is not parry...I keep forgetting that.

No, I haven't been to the test or beta servers.

ahdam

IDK how many pionts it takes to get what but im going to try for this build.

60 ToS AP=

10 in General = Health / Mount speed

Fighter Tree-
Consumate Defender
Battle Hardening
Enhanced Rescue (goin to need ALL the hate we can get)
----> Sneering Assult

Warrior Tree-
Agressive Nature
Veterens Sheilding
Rallying Cry
---> Cry of the Warrior

Guardian-
Hateful Assult
Added Constitution
Decimate
Reversal
----> Sentinal Strike
------------> Defensive Minded (if i can)

Garbage Abilities IMO = Reposte Mastery, Saving Grace, Strategic Assault

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Guldor

you can only get rescue down to 2:30 recast (normal recast got lowered to 5 min). so if you got int final ability and points in it already from the eof tree it would not do much. so i would rate this not worth spending points in.

agressive nature is not doing enough. we do block but not as much that it is really doing much. i think the extra ca damage from the same tree is worth more hate. i think spending points in there is a waste.

hateful assault just takes too long to cast. while casting that would have casted 2 ca and could swing with an auto attack once/twice. it takes way too much away from us than it offers. if it would lower the casting time yeah that would be an awesome aa.

i would not say that strategic assault is crap. it lowers the casting time on our aoe. and that one one of the longer cast times we got. so it could be worth it. needs some more testing.

oh and you spend 66 points. you only got 60 tho. so you would have to drop one ability completely that would free up 5 points and remove one point from one of the others.

and defensive minded is not a "if i got points to spend" ability. i would rate it "have to get no matter the cost".

everything else looks pretty similer to what i got. i would say drop enhance rescue, agressive nature and hateful assault. and try to find new aas for 9 points that you will free up. that woudl actully be my tree then atm.

currently i got my last 9 points into guardian's will (5) and strategic assault (4).