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Old 11-17-2008, 12:23 AM  
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And it's also very "questionable" in RoK with 140 AAs.
Uh huh, like guardians cannot use tower shields keeping DA from STA line, with 8% riposte as well, and don't have Block and ToS where berserkers don't have their EoF tree fixed, with Gut Roar not being Block equivalent and Wall of Force not making up for ToS. Throw in the lack of snaps for zerkers atm and longer reuse for Gibe etc etc...
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:25 AM  
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Yah, because Berserkers couldn't tank things just as well as Guardians, wait no they could.
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:28 AM  
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Yah, because Berserkers couldn't tank things just as well as Guardians, wait no they could.
Why make things harder for yourself? One thing if you don't have a guardian and got to use a zerker, another thing if you have both and can pick the one that will do the job easier...

Edit: and you know, lol, seems to me with this statement you're trying to claim that berserkers are absolutely fine atm and just as good as guardians, thus don't deserve the boost they are getting. Pretty sure they'll rip your head off for that, ask Hoodhop.

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Old 11-17-2008, 01:56 AM  
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Just curious... After all the changes and SoE fuckups it's an option, sadly.
I tried to beta buff a SK on beta, but I don't like to play hybrid damage classes, and beta buffed toon just isn't the same compared to a top geared one.
On the other hand, played the avatar geared zerker on beta, and compared to the guardian with even a bit better gear that was really badass.
No. I don't play the flavor of the month. I play a Guardian.
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:03 AM  
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I will never betray my guard i have played for the last 4 years to a zerker.If game gets to the point its a piece of shit cause soe fucked it up like swg ill just quit.


Hell i have all ready quite a few games in mind that are fun, and would keep me content for awhile.maybe all guards should do that for like the first 3 months, then come back heh.Would have really sucked if we did that back in rok, people would not have gotten there mythicals as fast for sure.


As for Pinski you fucking twat, it is quite obvious you post on other forumns ,and did in beta becuase you want to keep attention away from one of the biggest OP classes in game you play.However you know tso gonna go live in like 2 days you can stop being a fucking clueless idiot now, and go back to your illy boards ass wipe.You would not understand what balance is even if a scale fell on your head.
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:52 AM  
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Guardian till I quit. And if they fuck us and I can't tank worth a shit... well then I quit. But I'm not in beta, I'm gonna see how it plays out.
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Old 11-17-2008, 10:31 AM  
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Check this post please and add some comments...
Dunno if anything of this will work out, but at least a few tweaks would be nice.
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:28 PM  
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Havent betrayed. and not going to. i dont see anything wrong with the guard AA. Only mythical that needs a boost imo. All tho PL a zerk again... will soon be 80 and rdy to rock.
Seriously? You guys are still complaining about your mythical even after the extremely nice proc on it? You got an ability that before was only available to Avatar killing tanks. Now every Guard that can get their Mythical, which come TSO will be a lot, can have the same proc that was unique to the very very few before.

Half of other classes abilities on their Mythical become crappy or next to useless in TSO...you get an ability that rocks. Please give it up already.
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The "resurved for avitar item" arguement is stupid. Which item (avitar or not) can we equip to give us 100% AE auto attack to 4 mobs? Which item (again avitar or not) can we get to give us 50% strikethrough? Which item can we get (avitar or not) to give us 10% damage reduction and 10% healed when hit? Which item? All of these effects are available on other mythicals and are resurved for those classes only, yet ours is available to anyone in an avitar killing guild.

The mythical needs a boost in Damage reduction and hate gain, the best way to accomplish this is to move the second proc to the main proc, and toss out the 5% damage reduction proc, make the 3rd ability on the mythical into a % damage reduction with the % reduced damage returned to the guardian as hate. And the item is still missing the mez effect, so to make mobs equally hard for all tanking classes they will change stuns and stifles on specific mobs to mezes.
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:33 PM  
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The "resurved for avitar item" arguement is stupid. Which item (avitar or not) can we equip to give us 100% AE auto attack to 4 mobs? Which item (again avitar or not) can we get to give us 50% strikethrough? Which item can we get (avitar or not) to give us 10% damage reduction and 10% healed when hit? Which item? All of these effects are available on other mythicals and are resurved for those classes only, yet ours is available to anyone in an avitar killing guild.

The mythical needs a boost in Damage reduction and hate gain, the best way to accomplish this is to move the second proc to the main proc, and toss out the 5% damage reduction proc, make the 3rd ability on the mythical into a % damage reduction with the % reduced damage returned to the guardian as hate. And the item is still missing the mez effect, so to make mobs equally hard for all tanking classes they will change stuns and stifles on specific mobs to mezes.
You do know the axe of war gives you like 75%+ aoe auto atk, with the agi tree is well over 100%.
You also know guards have strikethrough AA's as well.
You also know guards have 5% on thier mythical for damage reduction and another 5% on thier TSo set bp.

Its funny how you are trying to claim these effects are reserved for other classes muthicals and yet there are items that exist.

Guards were overpowered, Guards are fine now, minus the normal crappy occasional AA's ever class has. Guards are not going anywhere. The will still tank heroic groups and raids without any issue that every other tank deals with. All the single target tanks have issues holding aoe agro, but they make up for it with better defense(guards) or dps (brawlers).

and while i hardly care if mezz is placed on your myth proc, you do realize your bitching about the most useless npc control effect in the game that litterally breaks the moment it hits the tank because it breaks on any damage. I dont even recall a single fight in eq2 where mezz really did anything. The only fight i recall mezzed doing anything was when i was soloing vordor in KC and it would litterally break every time he casted the effect.

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