Mages in TSO?

Jokael · 12-03-2008, 10:52 AM

I have a question to you other guards about mages in TSO.

I have ran with 2-3 mages in groups and when we do the tougher instances they drop from an AoE so freakin fast it is not funny. These are not crappy geared mages eitther, they are VP geared at min with some TSO crap.

Also looking at the parses in PoF, Ravenscale and Atrebe's I am seeing alot of their shit is getting resisted. My wizzy confirmed this hypothesis when i approached him, he says he gets resisted a ton in the tougher zones.

It is getting to the point for the higher end instances I am leaning toward not taking a mage at all till they get more AAs,HPs,idk wtf.

My ideal goups with the way it stands right now is Shammy/Cleric, Druid, Dirge, Brigand/Swash, Assasin/Ranger. We kill things in these instances faster and harder. The scouts are staying alive to AoE much better then Mages.

Anyone else not liking how the mages are fairing atm?
Had a conjy on Powermonger last night and they could not parse higher then 1k for many of the pulls. While I was parsing close to 2.3k with an assasin hitting 3.5k. A brigand would have definetly made that fight easier.

Pinski · 12-03-2008, 11:03 AM

The mages you group with are shit.

Jokael · 12-03-2008, 01:14 PM

Guess I should expect such an answer from one of the Rate A Retard kings who lives with their mommy still.

Seriously, the mages I group with are my guild members, same mages who helped us kill trak in minimal time compared to when we actually got access to him. Imo my guild mages rock.

My issue is they keep getting dropped by AoEs on tough fights. Again they have full VP set gear and play their toons well. They are all about fully mastered. Healers,scouts and myself barely get touched by these AoEs.

Asrion · 12-03-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

The mages you group with are shit.

QFE

Pinski · 12-03-2008, 01:40 PM

They are terrible. They need to learn how to play. If they are dying to AEs maybe they should RANGE THEM? And Resists are barely ever a problem in heroic content.

I'm a Mage, I'm in VP gear, I don't die to mobs unless they are poorly positioned and a frontal kills me(including AE auto-attack) or I'm in the wrong spot. If they're dying, they are trash.

Gaylon · 12-03-2008, 02:06 PM

My guild has yet to goto VP.

Our mages are not decked out in VP or better gear and we rarely have issues with them dieing in TSO instances...except when they or I as MT do something stupid with mob positioning or range.

We usually run with 2 healers and so far there as not been any issues taking care of DMG the squishes do take.

keldo · 12-03-2008, 02:23 PM

Most mages I have been grouping with have done fine, Conj especially vs AE stuff.

Skootz · 12-03-2008, 05:30 PM

I have had no problems keeping myself or my pet (which probably has fewer hp/mit than your mages) alive in the new instances. I don't think I have died to an AoE from heroic content yet.

Its either your mages or your healers...

Also wtf is up with their DPS? 1K? I think I could /pet attack and afk and do more than that. Even on that particular mob that is pathetic.

Jokael · 12-03-2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Skootz

Also wtf is up with their DPS? 1K? I think I could /pet attack and afk and do more than that. Even on that particular mob that is pathetic.

That was one fight, The Powermonger, he knocks you up every 7secs roughly. He is level 85^^^. He puts a dot on ya that does like 3-4k initially, then a % of your health ever 4 secs. If it lands on the pet, which it did at the beginning of every pull the conjy was screwed. She would try and bring it up again but get interrupted.

When you get the guy at 20% he starts to power himself up, where you have roughly 10-13secs to do roughly 10k dps before he regens to 100% health.

I am not talking about the easier instances here. I am talking about Orange con mobs. And basically the last named at the end of the zones.

Pinski · 12-03-2008, 08:30 PM

I only managed to do 6k on that mob