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Old 12-04-2008, 04:55 PM  
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Default Re: Uncontested Riposte chance

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Have you ever noticed when you level your block % goes down?
That may be true However +3 parry chance is still 3% chance to parry at any lvl. Just like +5 block is still(well used to be) +5 block at any level.
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Old 12-04-2008, 04:58 PM  
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Default Re: Uncontested Riposte chance

Uhm, no. +5 Block is +5% Block Chance vs. an equal conning mob. Same with +3 Parry Chance is +3% Parry chance vs. an equal conning mob. Not vs. any level, just vs. YOUR level.
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Old 12-04-2008, 04:59 PM  
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Uhm, no. +5 Block is +5% Block Chance vs. an equal conning mob. Same with +3 Parry Chance is +3% Parry chance vs. an equal conning mob. Not vs. any level, just vs. YOUR level.
I give up on you, stop trolling and play a real tank.
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Old 12-04-2008, 05:07 PM  
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Default Re: Uncontested Riposte chance

I'm sorry you don't know how game mechanics work and continue to believe things that aren't true.
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:09 PM  
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Default Re: Uncontested Riposte chance

Pinski is right actually.

The term "uncontested" just means that it doesn't take into account skill checks, i.e. your skill to avoid vs. the mob's skills to hit. However, it still takes into consideration base levels of encounters.

The reason that uncontested avoidance is king as far as avoidance in general goes is because of SoE's laziness. See, instead of building ultra-solid game mechanics, they just compensated for the godly avoidance they gave tanks in the KoS days by giving mobs higher offensive skills.

If you can remember this far back, you may remember that week or two where end-game raid tanks were tanking in cloth robes shortly after the "avoidance fix" about 2 years ago because they simply couldn't be hit. Instead of claiming ignorance when gamers cried FOWL, they "fixed" it by giving all tanks a base avoidance percentage regardless of gear and adjusting mob's to-hit bonuses to level the playing field.

Fast forward 2 years and the same problems persist. Nasty spike damage due to massive mob hits and ultra high offensive skills were put in to compensate for far superior tank avoidance. Ironically, avoidance in general is probably just too high for every tank but necessary to defeat mobs with such exceptional offensive prowess. The next obvious (and lazy) fix was to add uncontested avoidance to counterbalance all this yet again when the level cap increased. But sadly, the con level of a mob still plays a roll in adjusting how uncontested avoidance works: at this point though it's nothing more than a balancing tool.

It's the unfortunate truth, but truth none the less.

Less overall avoidance for everyone and reduced mob spike damage would make for better and more tactical combat imo.

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Old 12-05-2008, 11:31 AM  
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Default Re: Uncontested Riposte chance

unless something was changed uncontested block is only affected by level of shild Vs. level of player. i can't find the thread that shows a lvl 1 guardian blocking avatar of valor but some here will rember it.
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Old 12-05-2008, 01:23 PM  
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DAMNIT CHUMANN! Why would u go and do something like give another intelligent response to this thread... Just when it was about to get fun!


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Old 12-05-2008, 02:25 PM  
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Block is contested now... for those that still think its uncontested... How ever that neck item is a waste imo... what ever you do you will lose on it imo... i still use that fucking neck item from vault.... Nice crit on it... and i gain more for that than some ripost %ish imo... Since the only problem i have atm is aggro... vs singel and aoe targets :S i dont use agi line... thats a waste imo and will only gimp me vs singel target even more....
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Old 12-05-2008, 03:29 PM  
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You're dumb. Block is not contested still.
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Old 12-05-2008, 05:43 PM  
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You are an idiot. %parry and %riposte adornments don't scale to level. Also, protection is contested in TSO. Learn how game mechanics work and go play with Nagafen for a while before you open your dick sucker next time.
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