Defiant

I have toyed around some with a couple TSO items with +10 percent shield effectiveness, but still not certain what is actually being modified.

Is it boosting the avoidance the shield provides?

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Pinski

Shields don't provided mitigation....

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Snark

Its essentially a modifier on shield protection. It seems to have diminishing returns though..?

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Defiant

AC on shields doesn't provide mitigation?

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Vainamoinen

shield protection = avoidance

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Chumann

Shields don't have AC either. In fact, there is no such thing as AC in this game. There is however, mitigation.

There are a small number of shields that have bonuses like +slashing/crushing/piercing which is adding standard mitigation. All shields though have a "Protection" value which calculates your chance to block.

The +% to shield effectiveness essentially increases the protection on the shield above the base number (the one that's displayed). The number displayed will not change based on how much +% shield effectiveness you have. It always displays the base protection value.

Example...
Shield has 1500 protection value (as noted on the shield description). You have items totalling 20% shield effectiveness. The shield has an effective protection value of 1800.
1500 + (1500 x 20%) = 1800

And for the record, I'm pretty sure that the +% to shield effectiveness doens't have diminishing returns. The protection value itself does. So... items totalling 50% shield effectiveness will effectively make a shield have 50% more protection. It's just that the effective protection rating probably has the diminishing curve to it.

And of course, this is all completely different from +% chance to block.

The fact that people STILL don't understand that shields don't give mitigation unless specifically noted as a bonus is beyond me. Shields are designed to negate damage all together, not increase the amount of damage you can absorb once you're hit.

karimonster

*crashes boards for the sake of trying to understand tanks better*

So because shields negate damage it means that if a mob hits for...3800 damage, the tank effectively ignores 1800 of it due to shield. Then 2000 of it falls under mitigation, right?

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Vainamoinen

Wut?

None of what a shield does provides mitigation or "negates" partial damage.

Shield Protection adjusts base block avoidance (the chance to completely avoid an attack). End of story.

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Pinski

Are people really this dumb and don't understand that Protection = Block Chance, and if you have 1500 Protection you have X block chance, and 20% Shield Effectiveness increases your Protection by 20%. It has jack shit to do with how much damage a mob is hitting you for, it is NOT mitigation of ANY form. You do not get hit for less damage per attack with a better shield. You avoid MORE attacks with a better shield, which lowers overall damage, not per attack damage. This means, if a mob hits for 5000 without a shield, it'll hit for 5000 with a shield!

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karimonster

So....shields increase your chance of just not getting hit at all. Got it!

*writes that down*

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