Fungie

Sneak taunts in prior to them arriving, if you can, then:

1) Defensive Minded
2) Decimate
3) Acceleration Strike
4) Trespass (cripple) M1
5) Separate (cripple) M1
6) Infraction M1
7) Slanderous Assault M1
8) Overmatch (recycles quickly -- will be back up for the end of this cycle)
9) Executioner's Wrath
10) Mar (TBH, I use Flay M2, since I don't have M1 Mar)
11) Sentinel Strike
12) Retaliatory Strike (cripple)
13) Lay Waste (or siege)
14) Exact Strike M1
15) Gut Kick
16) Head Trauma (cripple)
17) Staggering Charge M1
18) Shoulder Slam (or whatever the ogre racial is called)

All +hate positions stuff is saved for when I lose aggro or if the mob is stubborn on pull.

If I use reinforcement, I'll save the big 5 (retaliatory strike, lay waste, exact strike, [exec + flay], sentinel strike) for the end of my reinforcement chain and then use my taunts... in an attempt to be as far ahead of #2 on the hate list as I possibly can be when reinforcement is gone. With a little bit of luck, it could mean an extra 10-12k hate compared to using your big hate generators first, then having someone pass you again on the hate list, and then ending your reinforcement with overmatch, gut kick, staggering charge, etc.

gnollhunter

its been a long time since i played, but reinforcment is early on, on every pull during a raid, hardly ever use it during heroic instances....

Saladin

I guess it varies with individual to individual, for me reinforcement on raid pull is a waste. Starting off with decimate is more than enough for me at the beginning, especially single targets. I would be lying if say i haven't used reinforcement in gp instances, sometimes you have nothing up and adds aplenty, then reinforcement +cycling through targets help alot.

gnollhunter

dont mis quot eme i never said i did not use reinforcment during heroic zones, just rarley, as i know most of the zones i tank like the back of my hand, but you are right when adds are applenty reinforcment+besige = aggro for eevrything in range, and i found during a raid in order to keep aggro off our more geared SK and zerker i hjad to use it early on, mostley on groups though, i guess it just became habbit, but w/e

Mohare

He never said that you did say that. It looked like the main point of his post had to do with using reinforment on raid pulls.

Defiant

Pre-Pull: Bind Wound, Body Of Butcherblock

Abilities in color represent sharing the same reuse timers.

1. Defensive Minded
2. Decimate
3. Master Strike
4. Acceleration Strike
5. Executioner's Wrath
6. Infraction
7. Sentiel Strike
8. Lay Waste
9. Separate
   
10. Trespass
11. Mar
12. Retaliatory Strike
13. Infraction
14. Overmatch
15. Gut Kick
16. Exact Strike
17. Staggering Charge
18. Head Trauma
19. Infraction

That is my normal starting cast order with top to bottom priority. Can sneak taunts in as needed. Staggering charge will be moving up once I get another TSO set piece and this whole thing will change up if they go ahead with the fighter changes in GU52.

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