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Old 02-11-2009, 01:12 PM  
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Alright, well like I said, I am hard pressed to give up INT. Going to try this spec out for a couple nights and take it from there. Appreciate the input.
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:13 PM  
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By dropping INT end line you are reducing how often you can use your other saves.

We haven't beaten switchmaster or Xeb yet and really only just started trying them this week. Are 3 healers required in the MT group for these fights?
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What ever works for you, but it seems to me that if you hit DM, then DR, then basically you are only having DM for this single purpose, since by the time DR is over DM will almost be over too. You're missing out on the 20% parry and not being able to spam all of your other abilities and have those other abilities on faster reuse. Also no worry from losing aggro while you're standing there not doing anything with DR up.

If your healers can't keep you up with hitting DM and then your other temporary buffs, combined with your other death saves, then you have other issues that DR will not help (atleast not much and you'll be without INT line).

Having the INT line for faster reuse of your death saves and temporary defensive buffs is pretty huge too.

Don't get me wrong, I think different set ups may be better for different people or different raid set ups but I just can't recommend this. Agility line is really only useful if you need better aoe aggro, and assuming you are the mt and there is another tank in the raid, this would be very rare, or never.

If you're having trouble staying alive, just get a little more gear from tso. There is no need to have DR every 1.5 mins, especially considering the other tools we have.
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We haven't beaten switchmaster or Xeb yet and really only just started trying them this week. Are 3 healers required in the MT group for these fights?
Until you get a few pieces of the new gear, and maybe even after, yea you will need 3 healers for xeb in the MT group(s!). We still run 3 healers for switchmaster too, no reason not to at this point.
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By dropping INT end line you are reducing how often you can use your other saves.

We haven't beaten switchmaster or Xeb yet and really only just started trying them this week. Are 3 healers required in the MT group for these fights?
Our MT group set up has been, Guard, Temp, Defiler, Dirge, Coercer, Swash.

I may just sub a Warden into that spot and see how it goes. Sucks that one of my 3 Dirges has a Warden with 200AAs and its his alt =(

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Old 02-11-2009, 01:30 PM  
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Until you get a few pieces of the new gear, and maybe even after, yea you will need 3 healers for xeb in the MT group(s!). We still run 3 healers for switchmaster too, no reason not to at this point.
At this point the only crit mit drops that are available are the bracers and boots, correct? I have both of them and am sitting at 18% crit mit. We don't have a raiding warden right now, but we do have two assassins with the AA debuff.
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:48 PM  
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We run 2 heals up to Gynok, and 2 heals through palace. (no anashti kill) 2 heals for what we have killed in inner also.
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Old 02-11-2009, 04:24 PM  
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Yeah I agree, I don't think you need 3 healers for any fight leading up to Gynok. Especially Xebnok who really doesn't hit hard at all, Kultak is harder to heal than him by a decent margin.

Also make sure you are killing Strange Stalker - he is easy and drops gloves. You should be taking him down no problem if you are thinking about working on Xebnok and Switchmaster.
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Old 02-11-2009, 05:39 PM  
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Thanks for the advice. We don't raid everyday and just cleared VP when the expansion came out, so we have been trying to balance TSO progression with maestro, trak, byz progression, and farming VP to gear more people up. Progression seems to take longer when you have to do it in each zone of the expansion at the sametime. I will see about killing the stalker.
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