when will sony fix the guardian - Page 3

Quam · 04-17-2009, 09:30 PM

i even thinking about betraying back to zerk...
dps to hold agro, then gotta do it the fun way.
worth betraying since changes wont be coming
any time soon..

Anap KaSplat · 04-17-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Quam

i even thinking about betraying back to zerk...
dps to hold agro, then gotta do it the fun way.
worth betraying since changes wont be coming
any time soon..

/wave

demonrage · 04-18-2009, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tumor73;931322[I

]I agree with Demonrage,[/i] Guards arent broken, overall Tanking in EQ2 is broken.
And yes our Myth needs some attention.

I dont know how you all feel about this, but they should leave SK where they are at, and give Guards the same tools to hold and pull agro. Its a FUCKEN joke to have a MT group consist of a manditory Swashi, Coercer, and Dirge for hate transfer, and if they die or dont DPS high enough for the hate transfer agro is pulled.

Really I couldnt care where my DPS is if I can hold agro by clicking taunts over and over and still have survivability in Def stance with Tower shield.

Some tanks cry when talking about the tank changes and how boring it will be when they just need to hit 3 taunt buttons. WHO GIVES A SHIT, can you imaging the potential of a raid force if they can DPS as hard as they can without the fear that they will draw agro.

Really, tanking breaks down in to two things for me, AGRO control, and Survivability. Right now agro control is stupid, its derived from DPS and hate transfer.

your post started good then got booring

Smashman · 04-18-2009, 02:10 PM

There is nothing wrong with guardians. There is very little I have problems tanking. I lose aggro to grave sacrament but get that back pretty quick after the sk bites it LOL.

Davngr · 04-18-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Smashman

There is nothing wrong with guardians. There is very little I have problems tanking. I lose aggro to grave sacrament but get that back pretty quick after the sk bites it LOL.

with BL proc his healers have to suck pretty bad to let him die.

Zemeckis · 04-19-2009, 12:16 AM

It's a stupidly simple fix. If they want to remove transfers from the game, scale taunts alone to be end up being a spread of 8000-10000 threat on the ST taunt, and perhaps half that for encounters, on 5 second recasts. Dont do anything else, because end game tanks have nowhere else to go but improve DPS for the most part.

Though, there's kind of a want for tanks' jobs to be dumbed down a bit, just so faggots like Anap quit the game.

Also, the game.

Noodle · 04-19-2009, 08:58 AM

It's the damn SKs mythical. I parse 5-8k on a raid, and the SK in our raid only does HALF that, and yet he steals aggro off me all the time. I've given up trying to rescue it back since even that doesn't work. Let them tank it, since they're a tank. If they die, well, too bad. Learn to use FD more effectively.

Anap KaSplat · 04-19-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zemeckis

Though, there's kind of a want for tanks' jobs to be dumbed down a bit, just so faggots like Anap quit the game.

I don't think I've ever said that I would quit because of these changes.

Mom must be proud seeing how you've posted 2 whole times here on eq2flames and both of those posts contain the word "faggot". Grow up.

Tujiro · 04-19-2009, 02:28 PM

At least you guys didn't have to deal with the zerker I had to deal with. Jackass would turn on his myth, go all out, in offensive, and then use his taunt that gives him an extra hate position when his myth is active, then throw a fit that I'm losing aggro to him causing him to die.

G

Chumann · 04-19-2009, 03:05 PM

Ya know, I was never one to say that guardians were "broken", much like most people on this thread, but these last few comments got me thinking...

It used to be that all tanks, even though they were and always will be unbalanced had some sort of edge to combat. Whether that edge was significant enough to allow them to be decent tanks or not can definately be argued against, but still... all plate tanks did stuff the others couldn't do or at least couldn't do better.

But with the current state of things... what do guards do better than any other plate tank? We're not the best dps, we're not the best utility, we're not the best aggro control, we're not the best snap aggroers, we have the worst death prevent, we can't heal, etc. etc.

With the advent of crusader reworks and new TSO AAs, we're arguably not the best damage preventers (note the word arguably).

So here's my question... do you guys think the guardian has become a sort of "jack of all trades, master of none"? Cuz I'm sort of inclined to think we are.