Guards - our aoe is ok for groups for aggroing mobs? - Page 2

JimmyTurbo · 06-08-2009, 10:46 AM

With a non myth guard alt I can push 3-4k zw (dirge coercer) dunno what you're doing to be parsing 1.5k

Karadawn · 06-08-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Davngr

guards have ok AoE agro the list goes as follows:

pally(plus ae dps amends) = SK > zerk > guard > bruiser > monk

tbh unless you plan on raiding i woulden't roll a guard the other tanks are just better at herroic content.

why take a tank that does 1.5k dps when you can take a tank that does 3k dps?

You might want to look at your CA sequence, and AA setup if you parse 1.5k .. Guards can do so much better than 1.5k. My Guard can parse 5k raid buffed and he's VP Geared

Davngr · 06-08-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ixer

Not sure what your doing, most instances im pushing around 4k+.

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Originally Posted by JimmyTurbo

With a non myth guard alt I can push 3-4k zw (dirge coercer) dunno what you're doing to be parsing 1.5k

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Originally Posted by Karadawn

You might want to look at your CA sequence, and AA setup if you parse 1.5k .. Guards can do so much better than 1.5k. My Guard can parse 5k raid buffed and he's VP Geared

i'll address all of your comments at once since they suffer the common fail. IF a guard is doing 3-4 a zerk/sk/pally is doing 4-6 so all in all the point all of you missed is that. why bring a tank that does less dmg then the others to a herroic zone?

Karadawn · 06-08-2009, 04:11 PM

Cant deny that SK's and brawlers out DPS Guards. But if its the search for DPS then why roll a Fighter in the first place??
Better off rolling a Scout ie Assassin or Swashbucker and DPS to your hearts content without the responsibility of keeping the rest of the Group alive. As for Shadowknights they have had alot of loving of late and as SOE is so fond of balancing Fighters I can see the SK getting a huge dollop of nerf bat in future patches. As for brawlers well i bet they are fun to dps with and can tank ablely too, but rely too much on avoiding damage so when they do get caught they get caught BAD!!!!!! and if that hit is a double attack well good bye Brawler.

Ixer · 06-08-2009, 05:52 PM

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i'll address all of your comments at once since they suffer the common fail. IF a guard is doing 3-4 a zerk/sk/pally is doing 4-6 so all in all the point all of you missed is that. why bring a tank that does less dmg then the others to a herroic zone?

Im not sure why you keep posting here. The point is while we may not have the top AOE aggro, we can get pretty damn close with gear/AA and other abilities. You just have to learn to carry gear around for specific situations Mutagenic burst for zones such as outer stronghold for several of the encounters; 2-3 pieces of MB gear+agi line 40% aoe auto attack and a dirge you shouldn't have any aggro problems if you just change targets once in a while.

Davngr · 06-08-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ixer

Im not sure why you keep posting here. The point is while we may not have the top AOE aggro, we can get pretty damn close with gear/AA and other abilities. You just have to learn to carry gear around for specific situations Mutagenic burst for zones such as outer stronghold for several of the encounters; 2-3 pieces of MB gear+agi line 40% aoe auto attack and a dirge you shouldn't have any aggro problems if you just change targets once in a while.

im actaully not sure why you keep posting here.. i clearly said guard aoe is fine. so wtf exactly are you referring to?

Salarionn · 06-12-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Karadawn

Cant deny that SK's and brawlers out DPS Guards. But if its the search for DPS then why roll a Fighter in the first place??
Better off rolling a Scout ie Assassin or Swashbucker and DPS to your hearts content without the responsibility of keeping the rest of the Group alive. As for Shadowknights they have had alot of loving of late and as SOE is so fond of balancing Fighters I can see the SK getting a huge dollop of nerf bat in future patches. As for brawlers well i bet they are fun to dps with and can tank ablely too, but rely too much on avoiding damage so when they do get caught they get caught BAD!!!!!! and if that hit is a double attack well good bye Brawler.

The first nerf has already been announced, LU52 will drop them down a notch or two.

Jokael · 06-12-2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Salarionn

The first nerf has already been announced, LU52 will drop them down a notch or two.

Don't hold your breath, I do not think they even looking at SKs or fighters with GU52. btw this is live tuesday.

Berrbe · 06-12-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jokael

Don't hold your breath, I do not think they even looking at SKs or fighters with GU52. btw this is live tuesday.

.................Procs... Lot of sk dps is procs.

Salarionn · 06-12-2009, 07:14 PM

You are correct sir. Procs will screw them and mages to a degree. So not a direct nerf so to speak, but it is a nerf to them in a round about way