DPS or lack thereof - Page 2

Wulfghar · 07-26-2009, 09:28 PM

Or use triggers/sounds in ACT. I march to my own beat O.o

I notice your crit is somewhat low. Try picking up any pieces with crit chance on them, as a high crit will affect your CA's as well as your auto attacks.

Your dps mod is also low, make sure your bow and neck both have +12 dps adorns on them.

As far as an offhand weapon, I prefer the one off of Druushk (Claw of Khalen) but there is a nice one off of Demetrius Crane in SoH (Nox Noctis) if Druushk is out of your league.

As far as group setups, look for these buffs from these classes:
Coercer - dps
Dirge - dps, tomb's calm (not sure if this is the current spell name), Battle Cry
Illusionist - Illusory Arm
Troubador - Jester's Cap

Blot Stormblast · 07-28-2009, 02:16 PM

Pretty sure you can't have IA and BC at the same time right? I run with dirge and illy almost every night and god it helps my dps tons. The brig normally gets IA and I get BC also would help if your healers didn't mind to pick up the ring of animosity in SoH as well. Think it was a trash drop? Lol but the proc adds 25 DA and with my grp setup I'm normally sittin at 112 DA when it procs and 83 MC. All of those factors with about 1245 str in grp stuff timing outos will help alot. Grps I'm hittin 6-7 dw or sword and shield depending on fight. And hang on to any gear you find with DA and MC cuz one day you may need more of one and it's handy to be able to switch em around.

Treggar · 07-30-2009, 02:58 AM

Brig should demand BC so the dirge can get IA. :P

LeBelAge · 08-01-2009, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atavax

you download profit, including int he prodit ui is a swing timer.

Thanks Atavax for the information, I've been using the standard provided UI.

But now I have another question just how important is this attempt to time my auto attacks?

Can anyone give me a good example where I am losing dps because I am not timing my auto attacks?

I am either a lot slower than the people here that have mentioned timing auto attacks or I am still missing something.

I get basicly one CA and then an Auto Attack and so on...

Thanks for any help on this.

Cheers!

Ixer · 08-01-2009, 12:57 PM

if your sword and board, should be 1 CA per swing unless you have almost no lag. But if you stood there and spammed your CA's you would almost never get an Auto attack in which does more damage then any of our CA's

Atavax · 08-01-2009, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ixer

if your sword and board, should be 1 CA per swing unless you have almost no lag. But if you stood there and spammed your CA's you would almost never get an Auto attack in which does more damage then any of our CA's

im pretty sure your auto attacks still go through between ca's even if they are queued. i think timing your swings is something to do with the slower swing speed that happens when duel wielding.

ahdam · 08-01-2009, 06:55 PM

A few definitions first, all 3 available on CA/Spell inspect:
Cast time = Actual time to cast a CA or Spell
Recovery Time = a blank space of no action after a Ability completes
Reuse Time= Time for the Ability to be active agian for use.

Auto-Attacks que and happen instantly after the current Action (cast time + recovery time) is complete. For Guardians most CAs have .5s cast+.5s recovery = 1s that a auto-attack can not complete in and must wait if it ques up anywhere inside.

Now is your Actual weapon Delay is 1.5s on auto attack. and u Spam 2 CAs back to back, this will happen:

Combat Start:Instant Auto Attack > CA 1s > CA 1s (attack ques inside this CA at .5s and must wait .5s) > Auto Attack

You just lost .5s in 2s of action. u lost 25% of your auto attack time to the CA spam. Ultimatly you want Auto attack rounds to happen at acceptible intervuls vs your auto attack timing as is reported by /weapon command. Example 1.1s, 2.1s, ect auto attacks. That way you can fit a CA rotation in between your auto attack swings with virtualy no loss in time with either CA or Auto-Attack que.

The Proper way to do 1.5s weapon delay is:

Auto-attack > CA > Wait for Auto attack DING > Auto attack > CA > Wait: DING > Auto attack > CA > Auto Attack > CA > Auto attack > CA > ect ect ect ...

With Auto counting for 50-55% of my total DPS according to ACT, i just lost 25% of my auto attack DPS. Big Loss.

I time my Auto attacks EVERYTIME. loosing auto attacks dramaticly reduces your DPS.

Landiin · 08-03-2009, 06:56 PM

I wouldn't use the AA timer in profit or any UI AA timer for that matter. They are just to buggy and the ding of the ACT AA triger is much more accurate IMO.

LeBelAge · 08-04-2009, 11:36 PM

Thanks for the write up Ahdam,
Allow me to paraphrase…

If I am not timing my auto-attacks I am potentially losing “opportunities” for auto-attacks.

Also it sounds like you use ACT (like suggested by Landiin and Wulfghar) trigger / sounds.

Would anyone mind posting what I must do to ACT to get my auto-swings to trigger sounds?

Thanks all,

erwan.i · 10-12-2009, 02:53 AM

Are you guys sure about the Auto Attack timing thing ?

Just did a couple tests :

1) Spamming my CAs regardless of the AA gave me a dps (1hs+Shield offense stance) = ~1400

2) Timing my CAs with regards to the AA gave me a dps = ~1000

And speaking of ACT, where do you find the option to have it play a sound for the AA refresh ?