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Old 10-12-2009, 10:38 AM  
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Are you guys sure about the Auto Attack timing thing ?

Just did a couple tests :

1) Spamming my CAs regardless of the AA gave me a dps (1hs+Shield offense stance) = ~1400

2) Timing my CAs with regards to the AA gave me a dps = ~1000

And speaking of ACT, where do you find the option to have it play a sound for the AA refresh ?

sure in a short fight (heroic) spaming your CA's might give you a bit more dmg(specially if you hit aa buff) but for longer encounters (epic) auto attack will net you the most dmg hands down. guards don't have the CA dmg to maintain hate with out auto attack.
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:03 AM  
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Its not near as big of a deal for a guard to time auto attacks is it is for most classes. This is due to the fact that our CA's are all very fast casting so you normally dont delay your auto attack by much. Sure you can gain slightly more DPS if you take the time to completly time them out, and i normally do, but its not ground breaking like it is for some classes.
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:31 AM  
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ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I wouldn't say that, maybe thats just me.
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Old 10-12-2009, 01:22 PM  
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Also try to optimise your casting order.
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:54 PM  
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ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I wouldn't say that, maybe thats just me.
not just you, he's just retarded.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:23 PM  
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not just you, he's just retarded.
yea bad advice fo sho
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Old 10-13-2009, 05:11 AM  
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Old 10-13-2009, 05:52 AM  
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The better equipped and better buffed your character is, the more timing autoattack is going to matter.

If you are gimp and/or your buffs are gimp, it doesn't matter. If you are parsing 1500, you aren't going to lose any dps whatsoever by spamming CAs.

If, however, you are one of the guardians even close to the parses in the parse thread, then time your autoattack for sure. Even for them, though, timing AA is just something to do while there is little else to do. Nobody is going to wait for their AA to go off prior to hitting tower of stone. I usually wait for it when I'm putting up a mit buff, but on the other hand, if I am worried about a disarm proc'ing if I hit the mob, I might purposefully delay my AA with the mit buff. Regardless, if shit is hitting the fan, the last thing I'm looking at is the autoattack bar, and if I am, it's because I want to delay my autoattack. Generally speaking, though, timing AA is something you do while things are stable to increase your dps -- in an attempt to keep things stable (... or maybe it's just because you want to beat the dirge or brigand app on the parse).



Also, with Acc Strike up, our recovery is .32 seconds, and our cast time is .4 seconds... which means you should theoretically be able to cast a CA every .72 seconds if you spam CAs, and that that average theoretical delay is .36 seconds. Whether or not those figures are accurate is questionable. It's possible that, given a particular delay, haste, etc, CA spam might synch up better than expected, creating a .2 second delay -- or it might synch up worse than expected, creating a .5 second delay. It's pretty difficult to actually attempt to figure out what kind of delay increase you're getting. It's probably just best to stick to doing whatever the hell you want if you're parsing under 2500, but if you're parsing 4k+, you ought to be timing your CAs.

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Old 10-13-2009, 04:29 PM  
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1) I managed to place the sounds on the AA timer

2) OK it makes sense that a 4K+ dps may require to focus on the AA timer in regards to CAs.

thanks yall
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Old 10-13-2009, 04:34 PM  
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How anyone can make advice to not time auto's, regardless of any situation is beyond me.

That would be the worst advice any guard coming to the boards could recieve.
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