Keigo had IRL sex with my Wife, AB Server Drama. - Page 109

Bug · 11-29-2007, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lunhilde

If you're going to accuse him of abuse, accuse her equally of neglect. Takes 2 to tango.

Someone in my family had major metnal issues and got divorced.. but they GOT DIVORCED before they started fucking around. I think everyone's point here is it is not okay to fuck around on someone. It is not okay. It is not justifiable. In this disgusting den of foul-mouthed nasty childish assholes, it is not acceptable to fuck someone who is not your husband/wife. You pay the 350.00 to the fucking sidewalk lawyer and get the fucking papers signed, THEN pay the 500.00+ for the fucking plane tickets.

Cause to say she needed to fuck another man to have the strength to get out is saying she is just as mentally sick as he is, and therefore, could be equally as accused of being abusive in their relationship.. no black and white there at all, is it...

Very nice summary of how things -should- go when you're done with a marriage, as well as a very good clarification of why many of the posters were so reviled by what Jen did.

Sarhea · 11-29-2007, 02:40 AM

People who think the situation is black and white have probably never been in an abusive relationship.

Look, girl who said this(who's name I can't remember, and I can't be fussed to use my back button.), I know you're going to continue defending Jake, no matter what anyone says, cuz that's what you're here for, but that comment is either stupid as hell, or can be used to say a lot about you and the type of people you associate with.

Sometimes, the situation *IS* black and white. More often than wishy-washy, submissive people with no sense of personal responsibility would like to talk about.

This is one of my personal high horses, and I'm especially inscensed that "but she was abused, so it's ok" is being brought up AT ALL in this situation.

When you marry, the idea is to be faithful. It's what ya do.(Unless, of course, the couple has different rules, and a healthy understanding of one another, but since neither is true in this case, it doesn't matter)

If a woman feels abused, and doesn't do everything in her power to get the fuck out, there are only a handful of possible reasons for it.

1)She likes it. For whatever reason, something in her head makes her feel special because he's screaming at/hitting calling her names, wtfever. Women like that never leave on their own.

2)She thinks she deserves it. Because something in her head makes her feel worthless, and undeserving of even human dignity. (And that's not generally the abuser's fault. Most of the time she was already fucked up like that when he got her. Else she'd have left soon as his shit started.

3)She's making that shit up. Or at least exagerating it to a big degree. The scary part about these bitches, is that fairly often, they get to where they really think his "You didn't do the dishes today while I was at work?" is abuse. But mostly it's an attention ploy used by attentionwhores. They hardly ever leave either, at least until they get situated with someone else they can use later as a point of pity.

Fuck, I hate most of my gender.

Outburst aside, honestly. I'm being all rambly to say two things:

If a woman's got ANY sense of dignity and selfworth, she won't stand for an abusive relationship for any longer than a few minutes. I mean, she may buy the "but I'm sorry and I'll change" for a month of so, but the first time he backslides, she'll be gone. I was. And I just don't have any sympathy or pity for women who stay where they're unhappy for either financial reasons, or "I'm a big huge coward" reasons.

ANd to the ladies here that Jake snowed? I'm glad ya'll have moved on, and seem healthy. To the chicks he's still snowing? Honestly? HOw can you be so goddamned oblivious? EVERYONE ON THE SERVER has known what he was like since the day he came on the scene in Shin's old guild. Jesus christ, he's proud that we all called him "Manwhore", it doesn't matter that we did it to fucking make fun of his ridiculous ass.

My gods, I really think all ya'll girls deserve him at this point.

Grull · 11-29-2007, 04:00 AM

Unfortunatley now thanks to the pictures posted of the him and her i have a mental picture of them shagging and it really....really fucking hurts, i gotta find a blowtorch to burn out my mindseye.

Be like Gollum humping a buffalo...but worse.

Cenarius · 11-29-2007, 04:19 AM

There are far better ways to go out of a relationship than going fuck around. Better for him, better for her and the fact she fells in love with Keigo which is known on his server is just a fact of her stubidity.

Jack promised her all she want to hear, doesn't she got enough brain to see what Jack really has? no job, lives at home, cybering next to her to x other women... great guy and anyone who is defending this is just a fucking moron. He helps her only because there was a willing ass he could has, not because he ever will help her, he either can't help himself to get his ass up, get a job, get a own home.

The easy way.. end your relationship and your free to fuck around.

The hard way... fuck around and not to end your current relationship will hurt the one you betrayed and yourself.

and Halo.. lives Jen allready together with you or not?

Hubbe · 11-29-2007, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ailerynn

Well you all know how I feel about this subject. However it's pretty obvious the conversation will continue and if we're actually going to have a mature discussion about it then I might as well state my opinion.

Personally, I'd have to agree with Winterstar. People who think the situation is black and white have probably never been in an abusive relationship. Even intelligent girls/guys who never thought they would stay in such a circumstance can get sucked in and it's a lot harder to leave then you may think. Feeling scared that someone may harm you, themselves, your children, etc if you leave them is not such an easy thing to walk away from. Mostly you feel trapped, like "yes this is bad, but it would be a thousand times worse if I left." It is the same reason women stay with guys who beat them, fearing it would be worse if they tried to escape. It takes a lot of guts to leave in these cases. Sometimes that person just needs to know they have someone to fall back on because it seems like they will fall apart on their own. Jen found solace in someone who would listen and I do not at all blame her for that. Even before she left to visit Keigo, I had heard she was getting a divorce, or at least looking into it. She wanted out and needed support to do it and it's not fair to put all or most of the blame on her. It's never just one person's fault that a relationship doesn't work and I am sorry but no situation is ever black and white. If you haven't been there, you cannot judge her for this. You may not think you would do what she did, but you do not know it for a fact.

If you want to stay in a relationship, you dont cheat. If you dont want to stay, you still dont cheat. So as far as it comes to cheating I'd say it's black and white.

And having someone to fall back on is, IMO, not the same as having someone to jerk it hard or spread your legs for. If that's the only way they let you fall back on them, you might wanna reconsider.

Leithe · 11-29-2007, 04:50 AM

We never got word on if there may be "unexpected surprises" in store. Booooooo.

Hubbe · 11-29-2007, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarhea

1)She likes it. For whatever reason, something in her head makes her feel special because he's screaming at/hitting calling her names, wtfever. Women like that never leave on their own.

2)She thinks she deserves it. Because something in her head makes her feel worthless, and undeserving of even human dignity. (And that's not generally the abuser's fault. Most of the time she was already fucked up like that when he got her. Else she'd have left soon as his shit started.

3)She's making that shit up. Or at least exagerating it to a big degree. The scary part about these bitches, is that fairly often, they get to where they really think his "You didn't do the dishes today while I was at work?" is abuse. But mostly it's an attention ploy used by attentionwhores. They hardly ever leave either, at least until they get situated with someone else they can use later as a point of pity.

Im sorry, but that's just plain stupid and ignorant.

Abusive relationships usually always follow the same cycle.
It starts with the mental abuse, which the person usually doesnt even notice, and neither does the abuser. After that, when your partner is mentally broken down to the extent where she has no selfesteem at all left the physical abuse beings.

At this point the person is usually broken down to the limit where she doesnt actually think that she deserves better, as you say in 2), however, that's almost ALWAYS the abusers fault. At this point, she's also cut of from the world to an extent where she has no friends left, nor any contact at all with family members. This is also an important part in the mental abuse cycle.

And Im sure there are people out there who like it, however, i dont think there's a whole lot of them.

Legion · 11-29-2007, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hubbe

At this point, she's also cut of from the world to an extent where she has no friends left, nor any contact at all with family members. This is also an important part in the mental abuse cycle.

Well, considering she not only wasn't cut off from friends, but was allowed to fly to a "friend's" (winkwink, nudgenudge) house and was allowed daily intimate contact with said "friend" (and had the opportunity for however much more), I'm pretty sure we can rule out Shintou as a spouse abuser. Hm?

There's speculation, and then there's bullshit. I think you folks that are insinuating that he abused her have crossed that line.

Was he messed in the head? Yep. Was her marriage unhappy? Looks like it. Did he abuse her? I highly doubt it.

Stormfists · 11-29-2007, 05:59 AM

Wait... HaloChaos... are you still with her?

Silly boy if you are... real silly boy.

Ganjookie · 11-29-2007, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Broncas

bloodninja: Baby, I been havin a tough night so treat me nice aight?
BritneySpears14: Aight.
bloodninja: Slip out of those pants baby, yeah.
BritneySpears14: I slip out of my pants, just for you, bloodninja.
bloodninja: Oh yeah, aight. Aight, I put on my robe and wizard hat.
BritneySpears14: Oh, I like to play dress up.
bloodninja: Me too baby.
BritneySpears14: I kiss you softly on your chest.
bloodninja: I cast Lvl. 3 Eroticism. You turn into a real beautiful woman.
BritneySpears14: Hey...
bloodninja: I meditate to regain my mana, before casting Lvl. 8 Cock of the Infinite.
BritneySpears14: Funny I still don't see it.
bloodninja: I spend my mana reserves to cast Mighty F*ck of the Beyondness.
BritneySpears14: You are the worst cyber partner ever. This is ridiculous.
bloodninja: Don't f*ck with me bitch, I'm the mightiest sorcerer of the lands.
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BritneySpears14: Don't ever message me again you piece of shit.
bloodninja: Robots are trying to drill my brain but my lightning shield inflicts DOA attack, leaving the robots as flaming piles of metal.
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bloodninja: You still there baby? I think it's getting hard now.
bloodninja: Baby?

lol i pee'd a little after reading this