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11-26-2007, 12:00 PM
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Re: Cochy 80 Assasin Diso-Nektulos
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Originally Posted by Kuian
The price of masters are insane right now, having any master up for over 70p is an attempt to rip someone off. Like someone mentioned above, I too HATE price gougers.
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T8 masters are high right now based on supply and demand. If you want to pay less, wait 3 to 6 months for the price to drop, and get AD3s to start.
But don't expect someone to charge less than 100 p for an item if someone else is willing to pay that much for it. From any seller's perspective, that would be like throwing money away.
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11-26-2007, 12:00 PM
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Re: Cochy 80 Assasin Diso-Nektulos
The price of masters is what people will pay; you want to be the cool kid on the block with the first master, you pay a premium for it. The rest of us are coping with adept III or previous tier masters, so quit being whiny emo kids agonizing over not having your shiny fabled and buck up or let someone else with the cash pay for it. The fact that epics are dropping plat and you can make ridiculous amounts farming and solo questing in RoK means that we're in a new plat standard anyway. If you want a reasonable market wait until we actually know how frequently these things are gonna drop versus how much money people make. It'd be retarded to sell something for 40pp when you think you can get 100pp, that's how economies operate. I wouldn't expect a raid guild to wait a couple days and let another guild have a fair crack at a contested, nor would I expect anyone to cut prices out of charity.
The game is too easy, the game is too easy, OMG people are charging too much for masters, content will be slightly harder, we will have something to work towards for the next year! The humanity! Actually the fact that masters cost so much is what makes it possible for motivated people to acquire these masters before Average Joe gets their hands on them.
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You may not defraud other players.
Fraud is defined as falsely representing one's intentions to make a gain at another's expense. Examples of this activity include, but are not limited to, using deception to deprive another player of items or coin (by trade scamming or any other method), slandering another player or impersonating them with the intention of causing harm to that player's reputation, or falsely representing one's identity in order to gain access to another player's account or account information.
Fraud in all transactions between players may result in disciplinary action when confirmed by an EQII CSR.
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If this played out like the OP said there was obvious intent of deception here. It don't matter whether there was a popup that said "Don't hit the button, dumbass", someone set out with the intent to fuck another player out of a master. Going two for two!
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11-26-2007, 12:08 PM
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Character: Blaye
Guild: Anomaly
Server: Butcherblock
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Re: Cochy 80 Assasin Diso-Nektulos
I don't give two shits right now about the price of masters, he had it up for 200p, to me that seems like a gouge, to others maybe not so much. Yes, I'm smarter then a piece of bark, I get the whole concept of basic economics and supply and demand.
And if I really wanted a master I'd have my woman buy it for me regardless of the price.
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11-26-2007, 12:12 PM
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Re: Cochy 80 Assasin Diso-Nektulos
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Originally Posted by Runaf
Turn off duels if you are afraid that you might make the same mistake again.
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Ask any plat farmer, and they will tell you this much, assuming they speak enough english. What Cochy did was not exactly admirable, but I guarantee that no CSR will do anything about it. At the end of the day, he offered a duel bet, not a trade, and you were the one that accepted it.
You can bitch, and moan, and insult his guild, but none of that will get you your master back. Maybe next time you will pay attention, lol.
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11-26-2007, 12:16 PM
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Fuck You, You Fuckin' Fuck!
Character: Laalon
Guild: Desolation
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Re: Cochy 80 Assasin Diso-Nektulos
Grats Cochy....Oldest, and by far, funniest tricks in the book. Well played sir
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11-26-2007, 12:17 PM
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Character: Psykil
Guild: Chaotic Legion
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Re: Cochy 80 Assasin Diso-Nektulos
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Originally Posted by Runaf
Ask any plat farmer, and they will tell you this much, assuming they speak enough english. What Cochy did was not exactly admirable, but I guarantee that no CSR will do anything about it. At the end of the day, he offered a duel bet, not a trade, and you were the one that accepted it.
You can bitch, and moan, and insult his guild, but none of that will get you your master back. Maybe next time you will pay attention, lol.
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I know for a FACT it will get a response in a petition, and if the other dude has logs of the conversation than cochy is in for a world of hurt considering his past history, thats all Im saying.
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11-26-2007, 12:18 PM
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<3 OMG Claire!! <3
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Re: Cochy 80 Assasin Diso-Nektulos
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Originally Posted by Runaf
Ask any plat farmer, and they will tell you this much, assuming they speak enough english. What Cochy did was not exactly admirable, but I guarantee that no CSR will do anything about it. At the end of the day, he offered a duel bet, not a trade, and you were the one that accepted it.
You can bitch, and moan, and insult his guild, but none of that will get you your master back. Maybe next time you will pay attention, lol.
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Read the EULA. Plus with Cochy's record already: had to plead with CSRs just to get his account back, I doubt the outcome would be in his favor.
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11-26-2007, 12:26 PM
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Re: Cochy 80 Assasin Diso-Nektulos
If his "record" gets him in trouble, then that's pretty shady on SOE's part. People get away with this all the time when they do it to plat-farmers or new players, and CSRs do nothing, but for whatever reason this price-gouging "guildie" should get special treatment because Cochy has a history?
I'm not arguing that it's fair or it's right, but having seen this happen on several occasions, I have never seen any discplinary action from Sony. I would be suprised to see a CSR force him to give it back or ban him, considering how often it happens and is ignored.
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11-26-2007, 12:27 PM
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Re: Cochy 80 Assasin Diso-Nektulos
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Originally Posted by Psykil
I know for a FACT it will get a response in a petition, and if the other dude has logs of the conversation than cochy is in for a world of hurt considering his past history, thats all Im saying.
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I agree with Psykil and Gaige on this. If the player petitioned, CS is likely to treat this as deception or theft in violation of the EULA. They are going to handle a petition like this from a legit player differently than from a toon named Wsldfjsalkd in a guild named "happy love guild".
The question is, did this guy /report and then petition?
If not, he's probably screwed out of the life savings he was expecting.
A great lesson in this is also, why help anyone out and agree to meet them to save broker fees. Just put your shit on the broker for what you want to sell it for and stop playing these retarded highball selling games.
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11-26-2007, 01:00 PM
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Character: J Revolving
Guild: on mah
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Re: Cochy 80 Assasin Diso-Nektulos
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Originally Posted by LFG
I disagree about 100 p being a lot of money. Anyone with a couple of EQ2 characters can earn this much in a few days at most if they know what they're doing. I'm not sure what Disso's monthly plat splits are these days, but when I was in Disso, I seem to remember getting more than 100 p every month. I definitely remember outbidding another guild member and paying 150 p for the Hurricanus bp for my SK alt when I was in Disso, that was maybe 10 percent of the plat I had at the time.
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that was a totally sweet month, you and maktahr made my bank account fun
To the OP: You DUNBINHAD royally chump
To Cochy: That master isn't going to help you do more dps than me
To everyone else: Whoever's side you take, it's still funny.
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