Unhallowed Triad/Unrest - moved from Test by SOE - Page 20

Manratten · 12-14-2007, 11:22 AM

My favorite part from reading this is the apparent moral outrage from people. I pretty much agree with a previous poster....who basically said...so what? Hell, assume it to be 1000 times worse. They were all instanted to lvl 80, given every piece of mythical gear in the game, teleported to whatever server they wanted....ummm...so?

Oh well, back to your regularly scheduled witchhunt, I guess.

Davroth · 12-14-2007, 11:25 AM

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SOE is going to have to respond.

they can just as easily delete the thread. Wanna take bets?

Teh Edi Tor · 12-14-2007, 11:28 AM

Well well, drama returns to unrest

valnas · 12-14-2007, 11:30 AM

This just seems to get deeper and uglier by the hour. Like everything else of this nature, a decision by someone obviously not in touch with the games community or workings, pushed through a favor for his pampered buddies with no understanding of the backlash and repercussions. I went from being skeptical about it all to simply considering this a colossal joke. Its painfully obvious these guys, or at least their leadership, have no respect for the effort it takes to gear and coordinate a real raidforce. They can hide behind their low population excuses and claims of legitamacy, but in the end the evidence has become damning that all the potential pitfalls of allowing test --> live transfers have come to pass.

On test they at one time had demi-god powers
They showed no respect for the test community and abused that power
Their leadership has 0 respect for the game, or its developement
They brought over gear that was not earned raiding
It was done without the normal fee's or restrictions

I was honestly in favor of allowing all test players the opportunity to transfer off, and make the changes in policy necessary to do that in a legitimate and fair way (no coin,a default legendary gear set, fees). Now a few spoiled players may have tainted it and ruined any possibility for this to occur. They didn't even make the collective effort to hide any of it. If they had come over and hidden their contested items, all had profiles set to hide, and started with a level 1 guild, its quite possible we'd all be more understanding of what they wanted and not have taken great notice of it. They arrived in the night, guns blazing and lies covering up the now obvious issues that we're all clamoring about. I hope they stay on Unrest, and I wish it was pvp. Let them stay, gear and all. They'll never get near a contested and judging by the small sample size of their behavior, it might provide our boards some decent drama as they tackle real raiding in RoK. We've eaten blips in the economy and player base from server consolidation before, and transfers in may. I'll eat this one to watch this farce play out in my backyard.

Kudos to LFG, Celer, and the many people who took notice and brought facts to light.

/flame off

Atelos_AB · 12-14-2007, 11:39 AM

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Again, i say who give a shit???

So someone got a special favor. Here is a nugget princess, if people getting special consideration and favors yanks your panties this bad, then lock the door and shutter the windows because you will cry in the outside world.

Shit like this happens every day, all the time.

The best defense is to not care. These people aren't taking anything away from you.

Beyond this guild transfer, i am sure there are special exceptions and waivers and supervisors looking away in eq2 all the time.
It is their game and sony can do whatever the fuck they want, regardless of the rules.

Now for the rest of the people on test or any other non transfer server, if you are expecting sony to drop their policy and just let anyone go now? Don't hold your breath. Again, that stems from sony gets to do whatever sony wishes.

"you need to STFU and get some cognative skills going. " What the hell is this statement about? I am assuming you left off reading after cognative?

Blow me. The goings on in a video game does not rankle my skivvies.

Listen, loudmouth. When people get special favors in the "real world", it's called nepotism. People get fired, sued, and prosecuted criminally every day for abusing their personal powers and priviledges to give special benefits to friends and family. We have laws governing almost every facet of society, from financial institutions, to educational institutions, to ethics policies in most major companies. Many professions (such as insurance) are tightly regulated to ensure that everyone is treated the same, and that no one is getting special treatment from friends inside.

And you know what? No, Sony cannot do what they want, when they want. Sony CSR's and GM's are bound by a set of rules, just like we are when we log in or use Sony's services. Those rules are in place for a reason, and have been worded and approved by legal counsel. Violating those rules could pheasably land not only the individual CSR in a legitimate complaint or lawsuit, but the company as well. Sony's policy is to treat everyone the same. Period. Violating that policy opens the CSR and the company up to the aforementioned complaints and lawsuits.

Flayedawg · 12-14-2007, 11:42 AM

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Violating those rules could pheasably land not only the individual CSR in a legitimate complaint or lawsuit, but the company as well

While I think the whole incident is deplorable, I very highly doubt that any portion of it could get SOE in any kind of legal trouble.

valnas · 12-14-2007, 11:43 AM

Lawsuit no, sanction or firing is probably more in line with this sort of thing.

Atelos_AB · 12-14-2007, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Flayedawg

While I think the whole incident is deplorable, I very highly doubt that any portion of it could get SOE in any kind of legal trouble.

Sony's policies state that CSR's, Guides, etc., must treat each and every player the same, and that failure to do so could result in players having a legitimate complaint and possibly lawsuit against the company. Is it likely to happen? Probably not. However, the point still stands that this is Sony's policy, and if it was violated, will hopefully be handled in the manner prescribed.

Atelos_AB · 12-14-2007, 11:46 AM

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Lawsuit no, sanction or firing is probably more in line with this sort of thing.

I agree. I was simpy stating Sony policy.

Suranic · 12-14-2007, 11:52 AM

IMO, it just effects our trust of the management of the game world and fairness between all players in it.
If you want to give people GM powers, uber loot, unlimited cash, etc... on the test server that is fine. It is there to test patches and nothing more. But allowing those tainted characters to transfer out of the uncontrolled environment of TEST into a LIVE server is inexcusable.
Those people should have known at the beginning that any character played on test will STAY on test. No excuses...