Lopann

Meh if the fuckers want to play on live, they can level like the rest of us fuckwads... Honestly seems pretty fucking weak that they just plopped em over to see what would happen, and when the shit hit the fan they just crawled back into their corperate hole and claimed innocence, stating that they were doing some great fucking service to the people who play on test... ya fucking right.

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Flight

Theres two other issues which need considering :


i) Lucky having access to GM powers and extensively using them in game, both to strengthen his own position and to twink out many other characters;


ii) SoE's total lack of respect for the integrity of the worlds we inhabit in game.



We know to what extent Lucky is not only a douche-bag, but a lieing, cheating douche-bag. SoE know this too. To post what Bruce has, in the light of these facts, is an insult to the entire player-base as well as to Test.

stevus

Words almost fail me at this unmitigated self inflicted disaster by SOE.

I really do wonder if the real reason for certain people leaving soe over recent months was because they were unhappy with what was happening within soe. Ignoring the public "i love soe and am really sorry to be leaving" hyperbole of course Is this simply the tip of the iceberg ?

If so then it would seem the arseholes have taken over and "won"


In which case i would not be surprised to see a few more decent people leave soe in 2008 -- and EQ2 to gradually go down the toilet.

If i was on test i would have deleted my toons and either cancelled my account or rerolled on a live server for sure after Fergusons totally idiotic post.

SOE could still pull their collective arses out of this with some credit IF they come clean on ALL aspects of this.

- They should state without delay exactly who is responsible for the decision to break their own rules in sure a big way and transfer dozens of people off test to a live server, with boxes full of loot....
- They then need to state exactly what disciplinary action has been taken and what they are doing to ensure unfair actions will not happen again.
- They need to ensure they really have deleted ALL the toons and, where possible all loot remaining, from Unreast asap. This includes the 2 guilds as well.
- They need to issue an unequivocal public apology to both Unrest and Test servers.

I'm sure there are a couple more thinghs they could do as well.

But i will not be holding my breath waiting for ANY of it to happen as we have all seen soe's typical responses.

They should collectively hang their heads in shame

spyderbite

I doubt Bruce wrote a single fucking word of that message. Having worked in and with large corporations. Something like this is always run through the legal department where the original message is butchered before posting. The legal department's interest is nothing more than limiting liability. They could care less about saving subscriptions, etc. They simply want to make sure that whatever response is posted leaves them several loopholes should the incident go to court.

In other words, you guys are killing the messenger. Granted, as Producer, that's his job. And, most likely why he was tossed in to office that day. He's expendible at this point and they can fire him with no expense to Sony as a scapegoat if necessary.

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Flight

Chances of this happening are pretty much zero. I think it was Brenlo who posted :

But the fact remains, and the truth is, that a decision was made, that was not thought through. That's it. How they knew each other is really irrelevant. Many of us here play the game and we make in-game friends. You cannot, as is often said on all game forums, demand that we all play the game, and then demand that while playing these highly social games, we do not make friends. It is simply an unreasonable expectation.




There it is, hidden away and swept under the carpet in a seemingly meaningless part of the post. How they know each (supposedly) doesn't matter. I'd say its pretty damn central and nearly as important as WHO ???




As an aside, a word of respect for one person who has acted with integrity and uncommon valor. Somone I'd never even heard of before this. Kethaera has stepped down as forum mod at eq2test.com and is leaving Test over this issue

Kethaera wrote:

Whoa, whoa, whoa! I'm not banned!

I'm voluntarily stepping and leaving the game of my own free will because I can't stand being slapped in the face by SOE again.

I've known about the corruption on Test for a long time, and have been working just as long to stop it, only to see those who participated in such things called "dedicated testers" who deserve "favors" and "kindness," while the rest of us got the big ole middle finger.

I've had it, and I'm leaving of my own accord. I doubt anyone at SOE even knows who I am.

The senior management know the inside scoop on all of this. This is why Bruces message is such an insult.

stevus

With the management favouring the tossers and ignoring the genuine testers it goes some way to explaining why some of the crap got thru to the live servers from test.
Too much favouritism. Bloody wankers

aurei

I would like to correct one thing rest is correct, it isnt easy to lvl here , we may get a bonus but hardly anyone grps here so u basically solo to lvl 70 or now 80:-) i recently tried from lvl 26 to lvl my dirge for raiding, and am still at lvl 64 after 3 and half months because haveing to solo it:-)

Co-leader Valiant knights on TEST, the last few years I also have a nec at 78, slipsliding.

aurei

On the down side as one of the players in the alliance 2 of the guilds in an alliance of 5 guilds have cancelled there accounts on Test, and now leaving the guild i belong to as the biggest on test, i am also been toild a lot of players who spend lot time on test but have there test chars for testing also have withdrawn there test players, not sure if they have killed or cancelled there accounts:-(
This in response to sony's Herr leaders post which while taking away UT's chars etc, and restarting them at lvl 1, at same time manageing to offend everyone on TEST, and as UT was only just the biggest guild there, and most of the testing was done by others over last few years as UT only formed from 3 guilds last year, they hardly added to our community, as testers, whereas now some of the oldest testers on Test now felt so pissed by what was said they have cancelled accounts so from 12 accounts i can verify, to maybe 20 accounts sony have lost they have gone to play lotro = lord of the rings, as they feel so dirtied by way sony have treated them, and not to mention accounts gone on live, i was only talked out of leaveing, by my co leader, and talks with Saedie, if we left we have 28 accounts, 7 of them hardcore and officers who came from eq1, and left there for similiar shit happening there:-(

aurei

its no good going after the exec guy as he already left it was his parting shot to kneecap sony, and if he is a personnel friend of lucky's i personnally wouldnt like to be his enemy lol as left all the shit on him, personally, Its going to take a lot now to make everyone on Test happy, and to stop the exodus!! over this issue if , and i am still trying to find the original not just copied parts of the top guy who has insulted all test players, so i can ascertain the exact words that made this exodus from Test, of some of my friends.

slipsliding 78 nec of Test and co-leader Valiant knights

Kelenvor

I'm curious about something LFG. Somebody from within the company feed you this information. Does that means some of employees within Sony knew about this and were pissed off about it? Was this something that was dividing the employees with management on the side of the transfers?