Unhallowed Triad/Unrest - moved from Test by SOE - Page 71

Caswydian · 12-17-2007, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelenvor

I'm just curious. Did anyone at Sony actually get in trouble for this? As in, write up, talk down, warning etc. I'm asking because of their public post. They acted like it wasn't a big deal and they could of given a shit. They just removed them to shut us up.

Did it make any kind of impact at SOE?

That is private information, and releasing it is likely a violation of employment law, so it will remain private.

Kelenvor · 12-17-2007, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Caswydian

That is private information, and releasing it is likely a violation of employment law, so it will remain private.

Thanks Mr. Wizard. I think that I was asking anyone but you for an answer. You've proven your worth as an idiot on the official forums.

Malachani · 12-17-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyrsten

I posted that I was looking forward to leveling up and then transferring to live, that post lasted about 5 minutes.

ROFL! Damn I wish I woulda seen that!

gilamarth · 12-17-2007, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyrsten

I posted that I was looking forward to leveling up and then transferring to live, that post lasted about 5 minutes.

Saw that one as well, great stuff.

-Gil

Martrae · 12-17-2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyrsten

I posted that I was looking forward to leveling up and then transferring to live, that post lasted about 5 minutes.

I posted the statement above yours. It's gone as well, but I did get a PM from Grimwell as a consolation prize.

Kyrsten · 12-17-2007, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Martrae

I posted the statement above yours. It's gone as well, but I did get a PM from Grimwell as a consolation prize.

shit, I feel left out now

aduros · 12-17-2007, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kwoung

Did I know about Lucky, yeah I did. Did I feel is was cheating, no I didn't. Why didn't I? Well because I seriously doubt Lucky managed to write an entire GM client or summon an item using GM commands. SOE gave him that ability, and I have a pretty good idea why they did, or so I think at least. It was done to help progress the server a bit so we could actually Test the raid level content that everyone(meaning the players on live servers) was so up in arms about us not being able to do. It was probably the best way to accomplish that goal, because dropping a buffbot on the server would have really screwed up more than it could help. Was Lucky the best choice, maybe, maybe not.. he has however, shown a great deal of dedication to the goal of being able to Test that content, until just recently, when he pretty much threw in the towel. I am not defending him, I just do not think he was to blame necessarily and I also do not feel what was done by SOE was a bad thing. I was under the impression, and proved wrong after certain items folks had were brought to my attention, that he had lost those powers a year or more ago before EoF was even released... I was wrong about that it seems. As for the extent of how he used it, I believe (once again I could be wrong) that 99% of the stuff was early KoS loot... most of which was upgraded from in the year that followed during regular raids.

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On a side note since I brought it up, do you feel the test copies had a larger impact than the plat sellers on a live server? really, paying to have your character leveled or geared or even just buying plats so you can deck a char out with gear he would otherwise have no way of getting... is that really all that different than a few characters having gotten gear on Test they would have otherwise not been able to obtain and bringing it live?

Here we go with the self-justification bullshit....

If SoE wanted to test raid content they would have copied raid guilds over to test, ex: the Tunarian Throne Room testing. This clearly wasn't the case. If you want to play on live, roll a live toon like everyone else. Don't beg for handouts.

Kwoung · 12-17-2007, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aduros

Here we go with the self-justification bullshit....

If SoE wanted to test raid content they would have copied raid guilds over to test, ex: the Tunarian Throne Room testing. This clearly wasn't the case. If you want to play on live, roll a live toon like everyone else. Don't beg for handouts.

Please... know what you are talking about before you post. SOE has copied raid guilds to Test and their various other testing platforms on many occassions. Having a raid capable force on hand, would have made life considerably easier on them. Coordinating a transfer then an unknown testing window with the ones transferred is not an easy or expedient task.

And exactly what in my post was self justification? FYI: I don't even play on Unrest, pretty much never have(think I have a level 7 there maybe?), most likely never will, I don't have anything to justify, I just posted to clear some stuff up.

PS: Simply asking and dropping it, isn't begging... and I already do have numerous "leveled up" live toons.

aduros · 12-17-2007, 11:37 PM

Your trying to justify clear evidence of corruption, with the excuse of 'oh they were just doing it so we can test raid content'. If your having trouble testing raid content, allow raiders to copy over and test them for you.

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Originally Posted by Kwoung

PS: Simply asking and dropping it, isn't begging... and I already do have numerous "leveled up" live toons.

Good, so it shouldn't be too hard for Lucky to do the same.

Kwoung · 12-17-2007, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by aduros

Your trying to justify clear evidence of corruption, with the excuse of 'oh they were just doing it so we can test raid content'. If your having trouble testing raid content, allow raiders to copy over and test them for you.

You are reading impaired aren't you? I will try to say it again more plainly (please read the following sentence very slowly, I hear that helps with comprehension)...

SOE already does that.... it does not completely fill their testing needs and they wanted an option they could more reliably count on when needed.

Edit: and BTW, the guilds that do get copied, are generally under orders to not talk about it anywhere or in many cases, even interact with other players on Test. So the number of raid guilds they can count on to help out with testing, is severly limited. And few (if any) want to come back and test changes after it has already gone live, or so it appears at least.