Unhallowed Triad/Unrest - moved from Test by SOE - Page 8

Johnathon · 12-13-2007, 09:35 AM

Least we have a possible reason why character transfers were down.

Aela · 12-13-2007, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Luckyx@unrest

we actually offered, suggested even naked transfers no coin no bags no nodda, just to save us the grind. we didnt ask for ViP service nor did we expect it we left test about a month before RoK, when it was the worst time to be a noob on a new server fully expecting to grind to 80 and be 2 months behind everyone else, thats what we were willing to do, and LFG reguardless of how much plat you have given away on test, the richest person who came over with us has MAYBE 100 plat to their name, most of which is probably gone now buying masters we could never find on test, first thing i bought when i got here was apoc master 1 for my warlock cause the only copy i ever saw on test got eaten by the mailbox 8 months ago

#1: First you didn't ask, then you asked for a move but not copy, and now you suggested a naked transfer? Which is it Lucky?

#2: For your Shadownight? How many characters did you have copied? All of your alts too? wow.

Having been a player of test for some time now, I would love to see the xp bonus taken away, and everyone have the chance to move onto and off the server. At this point, the server is dying, and having UTs characters copied from it doesn't help at all. I think they way these copies occured are wrong, and I also have issues with how some members (includeing you) of your guild, got their gear. Yes, you MAY have successfully looted (or legitmately aquired) all items you are currently wearing, however you can't say thats true for everything you have ever looted. Items gotten through God powers and Dev help were used to then aquire current gear--no matter how low end KoS it is. Additionally, people from lived were copied (RECENTLY) over to test to help your guild "fill out ranks" in order to "become a legitmate raiding force". You know it. Most of test also knows it. Stop Lying. Gear was then aquired with help of these people and gear that wasn't "legitmately aquired".

Additionally, AAs were gained by killing mobs that should never have been killed through boosted means. It's not balanced.. and it's not fair for live players.

Additionally, please keep in mind that is coming from someone who plays in a guild on test who actually HAS aquired all their gear without Dev help. I have never been given a single piece of loot on test by a Dev. Yes, I have traded for masters from you..and purchased them (7-15ish pp each). Tho i do wonder now how "legitmate" those masters were i purchased. I have full EOF legendary on my Mystic (and some KOS fabled), and nearly full Relic on my Dirge. Yes, this isn't much of an acomplishment for live players, but for the test server, it's pretty successful. Our guild has lead raids (without UT players) that has cleared all of Labs, with gimped groups. We're talking a 3 team raid force, with only 13 actual players (because we had nearly a full group of boxes!). We didn't have the numbers, the gear, or the correct classes (hello 5 summoners?), but we got something done. We accomplished something that we did, without help.. without copies from live, and without gear that was aquired by god killing epic mobs in EOF.

Yes, we pretty much suck, and on a live server our alliance wouldn't be a blimp on the radar. But you know what.. our accomplishments mean 10x what yours do. And at least it's something we can be proud of..without lying about it.

Terrifier · 12-13-2007, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Davroth

Thanks for contributing nothing of value to the thread.

Test is a different game enviroment. The rules and level of hand holding there are different. Character/Guilds shoudl never be moved from there to a live server. Period. let alone giving special consideration to one small group or guild over the others on that server.

It was special treatment and the only people who should be more pissed than the Unrest community are the ones still on test who were not given the chance at a free transfer.

The only way to make it right is move the lame fuckers back to test, or give eveyone else on test a chance to transfer to a server of their choice.

Whats of value to you doesn't really matter in this instance. You likely didn't read a thing and just responded. Use a little more imagination. After all imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution.

LFG · 12-13-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by gm9

You keep repeating it, but it's still wrong. Test server is just different from live servers. Even I hold duped plat on that server so I can test stuff, and it's just ridiculously easy to get over there (testcopies, FD beta, etc.). It's completely besides the point whether those guys have "earned it" and whether they brought anything with them. It's just a question of principle. If they were allowed over, everybody must be allowed over (and in both directions really). It's as easy as that, everything else is just bullshit (after all this time they can't really roll them back). And in my opinion the difference to not-allowing transfers from SE servers is at most marginal as well in this situation.

Well stated, and this is how I feel also.

LFG · 12-13-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Leorra

Regardles Does it really matter? Where was the outrage when they opened up free server xfers and plats were xfering across servers like whoa? I didnt hear anyone going hey this may impact our servers economy, and hey how did these masters spells dupe when my character got xfered over. Fuck no you didnt hear about that shit on flames. Fucking hypocrits all over the fucking place.You get pissed at this issue and take adavantage of the other.

You completely miss the point.

Moving between live servers doesn't involve DUPING COIN AND ITEMS, only one toon exists after the move.

HAVING toons COPIED TO TEST AND THEN COPIED BACK TO LIVE IS LIKE A HUGE PONZI SCHEME. It is a very different thing.

Epitaphe · 12-13-2007, 10:10 AM

at this rate we ll soon see ethereal legacy on nektulos...

Terrifier · 12-13-2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Aela

#1: First you didn't ask, then you asked for a move but not copy, and now you suggested a naked transfer? Which is it Lucky?

#2: For your Shadownight? How many characters did you have copied? All of your alts too? wow.

Having been a player of test for some time now, I would love to see the xp bonus taken away, and everyone have the chance to move onto and off the server. At this point, the server is dying, and having UTs characters copied from it doesn't help at all. I think they way these copies occured are wrong, and I also have issues with how some members (includeing you) of your guild, got their gear. Yes, you MAY have successfully looted (or legitmately aquired) all items you are currently wearing, however you can't say thats true for everything you have ever looted. Items gotten through God powers and Dev help were used to then aquire current gear--no matter how low end KoS it is. Additionally, people from lived were copied (RECENTLY) over to test to help your guild "fill out ranks" in order to "become a legitmate raiding force". You know it. Most of test also knows it. Stop Lying. Gear was then aquired with help of these people and gear that wasn't "legitmately aquired".

Additionally, AAs were gained by killing mobs that should never have been killed through boosted means. It's not balanced.. and it's not fair for live players.

Additionally, please keep in mind that is coming from someone who plays in a guild on test who actually HAS aquired all their gear without Dev help. I have never been given a single piece of loot on test by a Dev. Yes, I have traded for masters from you..and purchased them (7-15ish pp each). Tho i do wonder now how "legitmate" those masters were i purchased. I have full EOF legendary on my Mystic (and some KOS fabled), and nearly full Relic on my Dirge. Yes, this isn't much of an acomplishment for live players, but for the test server, it's pretty successful. Our guild has lead raids (without UT players) that has cleared all of Labs, with gimped groups. We're talking a 3 team raid force, with only 13 actual players (because we had nearly a full group of boxes!). We didn't have the numbers, the gear, or the correct classes (hello 5 summoners?), but we got something done. We accomplished something that we did, without help.. without copies from live, and without gear that was aquired by god killing epic mobs in EOF.

Yes, we pretty much suck, and on a live server our alliance wouldn't be a blimp on the radar. But you know what.. our accomplishments mean 10x what yours do. And at least it's something we can be proud of..without lying about it.

LMFAO I know you on several characters on test and all I can say is you excel at stirring up shit. Guess your accusations just took time to get going. To bad anyone thats on test thats dealt with you knows the truth and doesn't really value anything you have to say. Your comment about you sucking pretty much said it all.

Aela · 12-13-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Terrifier

LMFAO I know you on several characters on test and all I can say is you excel at stirring up shit. Guess your accusations just took time to get going. To bad anyone thats on test thats dealt with you knows the truth and doesn't really value anything you have to say. Your comment about you sucking pretty much said it all.

I don't care who thinks what about me. What i care about is someone standing there lying about what they do and who they are.
Oh yeah, and i don't hide who i am.

Macabrat · 12-13-2007, 10:23 AM

I want to know why they moved to being with. According to lucky most of the guilds 'toons' on Unrest are 70 and are still better equipped. That being said, the only reasoning I would see is because of large amounts of Plat or Bullshit from lucky.

Aela · 12-13-2007, 10:29 AM

oh and.. i have nothing wrong with having a dev go in and help clear a zone to test something.. working with a group to figure out whats going on.. maybe even getting some gear (not typically fabled) out of it. ON TEST. Once those characters move off test then there is a problem.

Also, it's not how i choose to play, even on test..so I don't do it. But i know a lot of people on test who do. They also don't get moved to live.