aduros

If what your saying is true, that would explain quite a few things. Duping plat to sell on SE through someone else is fucking stupid. Whoever is doing that should not only be fired, but have a suit filed against them if possible. I also agree with you 100% EQ2 is definitely dying a slow death.

LFG you may not see it since you play on Nagafen, and for everyone who rolls PvP, its the server to play on. So it's immensely populated. However, you can definitely start to see the effect on PvE servers. Especially now that people are getting tired of (B)RoK(en), and the lack of content thereof.

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gungo

While this is surely above and beyond the kindness of devs. Perks such as this by developers happens all the time at soe. Being it something as simple as moving a fabled item from 1 toon to another that "accidentally" looted it. Or summoning an entire guild into an instance that was locked for whatever reason. This type of indiscretionary decisions are made all the time. While the majority of the populace never get this perk. Heck some can't even get a fabled chest that fell through world. Guilds with the right "friends" always have and always will get a much better response from SOE. The Really funny thing is while 50 accounts were moved from test to live. What was worse is there have been toons moved from the bazaar to live. People have reported manipulating that system on this board, but yet that thread/person was never persecuted.

Where should the line be drawn obviously this one decision went way to far.

Fortune

Yeah Im sure most people would agree with you so let me outline it a little more before Im done with this...


From a P&L stand point EQ2 is in big big trouble. E-commerce is the only bright future I see for eq2... Subscriptions are on the decline and this is after a major expansion which saw a burst subscription rate of somewhere close to 11 percent... that also includes all trials ect...

What I mean when I say eq2 is dieing is it cannot exist the way it is now or more cuts will have to happen.. If they happen I can tell you right now I will have no interest in staying on as the content will suffer... With the recent cash cow (SE) suffering and more strigent tax situations arising in regards to SE.. not to mention the rampant fraud... well lets just say the people that are actually effected by all of this are starting to really feel the pressure... E-commerce could give them in theory more money a month than 350k additional subscribers believe it or not with NO OVER HEAD COST to them directly... well take a wild guess and what that means for eq2? Now onto whats happeneing in regards to all of this... Well for one the department that basically runs devolpment game mechanics tied directly to QA has a very horrid check and balance system with no outside PR check of any kind... There is a system in place to actually track and check this kind of thing but those same people that could say I dont know.. cheat the system by generating characters or plat have access to manipulating those same mechanics.. I mean come on who runs buisness that way??

By now anyone on SE knows there is a very real problem with buying and selling plat and characters and there new "Fraud Prevention" system has locked down 95 percent of current sales... Its basically a shut down of SE withouth bringing down the site... SE has kept sony from really feeling the hurt and now the very system that they have been making a very good profit margin on is also in jeopardy all becuase of internal BS which they apparently cant manage even now...

Anyway its on its way to true crisis.. sure livegamer has a very real shot at saving it which is why no real research was done to even impact how it would effect the player base if they actually do decide to enable every server (Which honestly may be a very real possibility)...

This is off topic though the only reason why the guild was allowed to transfer goes back to this very real problem of sloppy management...

Rommie

Considering the cash I've seen dropped into Item Mall games that are in Beta - let's say it was an eye-opener for me as to why they are multiplying, and that it's going to be no surprise at ALL for me when the Item Mall shows up in current and new "traditional" MMOGs.

"Consequences, shmonsequences, as long as we're rich"

Oh yeah - Test would be hard pressed to field a group that could make hay in Sebilis right now - and maybe could 2-group Labs at best. There's also gaps in the high-level crafters, so only the copy-crafters are capable to test certain tradeskills until and unless the remaining population levels up replacements. It feels a bit like Jericho

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Kelenvor

SOE needs to clean house as far as the EQ2 management team. I've seen a decline on the quality of people being hired. The original EQ2 was great. Blackgard and Moorgard actually knew what they were talking about on the forums. Some of these new guys seem liked they were picked up from a temp agency. They probably had a one day training session on what the fuck is a MMO.

Anyway, EQ2 is probably very profitable. But...that doesn't mean that they are currently bleeding cash because of bad decisions. It will be interesting to watch events this year to see how everything unfolds. The new producer already sounds like a jack ass so not much to look forward to in that department.

They have a great game and a great fan base. This whole guild issue and the handling of it just shows that they really need a team shake up. They have a bunch of dumbasses who know nothing about PR or good management decisions.

Blueberry

Maybe if Sony wanted EQ2 to be more profitable, they would spend more money on advertisement than they do on their yearly supply of paper clips.

Tesar

They spend money advertising the game?

TBH every time I see one of the WoW commercials on TV I die a little inside. I tried WoW, it's got the depth of a mirror and alot of the playerbase I encountered had the maturity of a preschool class. Even with the broken mechanics and unbalanced classes EQ2 is still a far superior product.

Panthera

Taking a giant leap of faith and suggesting you have even a shred of real data to back this up, it would take an even bigger miracle to think you understood what you were looking at.

But, please, don't let me stop you from talking out your ass. Be my guest. I'll just flag this post with the other few thousand "EQ2 is dying" ones.

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Fortune

Lol Did you even read the post? Doesn't matter man go back to the game loyalist. The point wasn't about debating if eq2 is dieing or not... Eq2 isnt going away but it can get much much shittier I assure you. Like SWG it has the risk of being a dead game even though the servers are still there... I could explain to you why theres no marketing why they arent willing to take any kind of substantial devolpment risks or costly engine overhauls but in the end none of this matters.. The only thing that matters is the game that you put your little heart and soul in is doing swell right? By all means man let me help you out.. lets qoute me..

"Eq2 is a very profitable venture which has many servers and a multitude of subscribers. Its lead by the creme de la creme of the gaming industry and will be bringing forth amazing new content 10 years from now."


To my early statements I simply live in my best friends mom's basement (His name is Katrenity and plays on the bazaare FYI.) and I like talking out of my ass becuase I think that it makes me look cool on the internet.

P.S. The P&L was the popsical and lolipop list I was going to go buy tonight from the grocery store.. The End.

Valtyra

I call Bullshit on this one.You idiots that think your speacial snowflakes
because you play EQ2 got to stop with the WoW shit.
Its like you start frothing when you even see a hint of World of Warcraft mentioned.
I play both and I enjoy both (gasp!)Some of the shit I see some of you
spew about WoW is laughable.EQ2 and WoW are both good games
Theres some things EQ2 does better and theres things that WoW does better.
The only difference is WoW is more popular.You dont think for a second
that SoE would trade places in a heartbeat?
EQ2 is far from being a superior product,gamers are not stupid if EQ2 was so much better than wow than more peeps would be playing it.
RoK is a bust....So I go into the zones I hunt in instead of lets say
Antonica instead of MAYBE 30 peeps theres 35 40 now.Unless you on
AB then you can be happy just before the sever crashes,