LFG

Sorry, but I hate WoW. I think it sucks. To me, WoW is like sugar cereal. I like manly cereal instead. WoW is like a wine cooler. I like scotch instead. Mostly, WoW characters remind me of Transformers, with all the big exaggerated features. That shit sucked 20 years ago, and it still sucks today.

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Tesar

Really? Ok, you say I'm full of shit, prove it. Prove that I'm lieing about MY OPINON. You cum guzzling moron, when I say that I think EQ2 is better, that's my fucking opinion. It's a free fucking county. You like both, that's your perogitive. I disagree but whatever, you don't see me ripping you for it. Admittedly I'm ripping you, but it's because clearly your mom couldn't lay off the bottle when you were a fetus and the fetal alcohol syndrome has destroyed your abililty to realize that people are capable of having opinions, and that they may differ from yours.

Would SOE trade spots with Blizzard...in a fucking heartbeat. They'd be retard worse than you are if they didn't.

WoW and EQ2 are different games. I don't deny that there are aspects of WoW that are better than EQ2 and vice versa. The things that I look for in a game are done much better by SOE than by Blizzard in this case so I feel that EQ2 is superior. Now how about you shut your computer off and go ask santa for some reading comprehension skills.

Panthera

Yes. I read your ramblings. For it to be anything other than you talking out your ass you would need to be:

a.) An employee of either SOE or Sony with enough juice to see balance sheets or
b.) have a friend that is 'A'

If you are an employee you are a complete dumbass for not realizing discouraging people may have a negative impact on your very job. If you merely have a friend that is sharing information with you, I sincerely doubt you understand what they are telling you or you are a victim of being friends with a janitor that likes to talk big.

This is much different than your first post about how EQ2 is a failing business. You don't declare how a business is in "big, big" trouble from a profit and loss standpoint and then say it isn't going anywhere.

As far as the product getting worse, that is true of every business. From McDonald's to Wal-Mart to Exxon, every business can begin to fail.

Fuck..McDonald's is a perfect example.

In the 90's, they tried to fundamentally change the way they prepared food and people hated it. After their stocks started a major decline, they finally did away with microwaving their food.

Jesus. I would love to go a few days without seeing someone bring up that train wreck. SWG failed because of a sweeping changes to the game structure.

No shit? You can explain that? Please...I'm all ears as to why we rarely see any marketing or advertising. I would love to know why I don't see William Fucking Shatner talk about his EQ2 Shaman. I am dying to know why there is know life-sized cutout of Antonio Bayle in Gamestop.

Lay that on me.

Developmental risks? Wtf? Are not fundamental changes to Star Wars what caused that catastrophe?

The rest of your bullshit in this post is retarded. If you want to be taken seriously, discuss what you lay out as some sad tale of woe that you are ever so reluctant to "leak" out but only do so to be some corporate whistle blower.

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Panthera

Nice post, good flame and well rebutted.

This part really made me laugh out loud.

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Blueberry

Yer a retard if you think that the consumer naturally gravitates towards the superior product.

WoW was shallow, and childish. It's what it was designed to be, yet I didn't enjoy it.

EQ2 has problems, but right now the biggest one has always been NOBODY KNOWS ITS GOOD.

aduros

WoW is anything but shallow. While I agree with most that the game is intentionally simplified, if you're a raider, EQ2 doesn't even come close. The raids and progression designed for BC is simply breath taking, and it's exactly what people have been begging EQ2 to implement. While solo, and group play is easy, there is nothing that comes close to WoW raiding in EQ2, save maybe DMP. WoW is definitely the raider's game, not EQ2. You can tell they tried to copy that model with RoK but failed miserably. Not to mention it's balanced almost perfectly and doesn't suffer from the same mechanical bullshit in EQ2 (orange con mobs, diminishing returns, arrows gimping your bow, ect)

I'm no WoW fanboi by any means. I hate the community, and while the art is gorgeous, I hate the lack of graphical bells and whistles. I will always prefer EQ2's character models, and fluid animations. Love it or hate it, you can't deny they knew exactly what they were doing when they designed WoW (and it's expansion). Everything about it screams quality and polish, even if i hate it's lack of difficulty in most areas.

Sadly the same cannot be said about EQ2, mechanically theres a new problem every month it seems. And while RoK was supposed to be the Burning Crusade of EQ2, it turned out to be a burning pile of unfinished shit.

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LFG

I'm going to close this post in 2 days if no further relevant drama develops.

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Fortune

Im not here to discrouage you.. like I said go back and play your game.. My posts don't contradict themselves though that is pretty weak saying that I'm changing my story.

Oh yeah Im not an employee of SOE... If I were you would see twice as many servers and a profit margin higher than somewhere close to 11 percent and maybe even Chuck Norris talking about Devistation Fist...

Then again loyalist we would probably see the same improvement if you were in charge as well... The key factor is there are people that dont know how to fix things and dont care enough to do so.. Couple that with a product that is so poorly under expectations... blah

Do you work for SOE? You have to come up with something that makes me invested in rebuttaling all of your points man becuase honestly this just looks like your hunting for attention or you love your game so much this is some kind of self justification for you.


To your point that I shouldn't say that sony is in big big trouble from a profit and loss stand point and then just change my story though thats what actually pisses me off... I never ever changed my story and very clearly said when content suffers Im gone... (Implying that at the point it's officially dead.) Sony is a billiondollar company and could break even and even take a loss and not bring the servers down... I shouldn't have to say that..,.. Oh and guess what if Sony goes through another year like this year you are going to feel it big time as will the employees when they start shuffling things around and laying people off... (Pure speculation ofcourse.....)

Oh one more thing try calling customer service up and test what the wait time is... 30+ minutes? Hmm Either all of there subscribers are calling at once or they already made deep and substantial cutbacks there a while ago...Just like the servers merging mix that with a non existsent ad budget (Even though they paid an arm and a leg for famous actors to voice over Antonia and Lucan's voices and actually hired the wave guy from the fucking titanic to do the water engine..) I dont man .. must be the sweet sound of profit!! Hmm things to think about...

Lets all hope livegamer works out..

Ispoki

Avoiding all the aggro heres my PoV,

I played EQ2 from release on Lavastrom, it was cool but back in the day fury aggro was borked. EQ2 euro servers came live and i joined with my old guild from SWG as a templar, still playing him and i still enjoy it. Even though i don't have the time to play as much as i like .

My bro plays WoW he was in a good euro raid guild, Chimeara was their name i think. RL took its toll on him too and he has left them now.

Anyways, i played WoW several times and it failed to catch my imagination. The community left much to be desired and i didn't like the graphics, but thats just my opinion.

Im more of a casual gamer because of my work but i have raided a fair few times in EQ2. I have seen high end raiding in WoW and i must say i am impressed by it. Alot of the raids i have seen require alot of communcation. I don't know what the new raid content is like in EQ2 but on the content i have seen, WoW seemed alot better, and more exciting even from a 3rd person view.

That in mind i love the way Blizzard in their new expansion lowered the new raid group number to 25 person rather then 40 person raids *cough* sounds anything like EQ1 - EQ2 (the later not being so "hardcore" which is what EQ2 was supposed to be) *cough*.
Blizzard had made the leveling part easy but the raiding part hard (only due to numbers in a raiding guild). They have now seen the error of their ways and made the levelling part easy (still) and the raiding part easier (now they only need 25 rather then 40).

Regardless of all that info its played by kiddies who can't understand such a complex game like EQ2 :P

tomthumb

QUOTED FOR MOTEFUCKING TRUTH

The only thing about wow is that there's so many retards playing it -- wow-rate-a-retard would register a new thread every second.

If you however take your time and find good group to play with, it's way superior to post-RoK EQ2.

Fucking mouthbreathers. Hating wow is like a drug to you, can't get enough while swimming is the SoE-ran cesspool?