This is how it will be? - Page 42

Caustix · 03-12-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigguss

lol what a bunch of cunts. SOE attempts to ban people off their own forums. What a bunch of fucking fail.

Would be funny for everyone to change their toons /lastname to Eqtwoflames'Dotcom though.

Can't believe how stupid SoE is in doing this. This is the only real site out there for good information on eq2. I am with everybody in saying once again Fuck You $oE!

/lastname Support'Eqiiflames

Stamen · 03-12-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Otis

The whole reason LFG was in the influencer program was because of this website, and the popularity it enjoyed through the efforts of LFG (and others).

The lack of any agreement between SOE and LFG regarding the content on this site as a precondition for his enrollment in said program clearly illustrates that either they had no desire to change it, or hoped to by offering LFG the position in the first place.

You seem to be latching onto the premise that LFG's "lack of participation" is the main reason for his termination, while ignoring statements such as:

Given the tone, I think it is clear that there was content on this site that ruffled some feathers. They should have known better. This isn't EQ2fanboi.com.

I'm not saying it is the main reason, though I can see how you read it that way. What I want to convey is that that reason alone is enough to have him removed from the program. They obviously want to have people that are in the know about EQ2 that will actively participate.

And you are right, this is not an SoE fanboi site. Very obviously so.

oxyl · 03-12-2008, 08:01 PM

Daily Flames lurker here and occasional asshat. There's nothing that i can say that hasn't already been said already except that LFG has never done the community wrong and we should all support him or GTFO. I for one am /lfg.

Stamen · 03-12-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LFG

2. I was under a nondisclosure agreement with SOE based on my participation in the Influencer program. That NDA was very clear about me not disclosing certain information I received from SOE. Based on that NDA, there was a ton of stuff I never disclosed that would have created huge traffic for this site and amazing drama for our users. By being kicked to the curb by Brenlo and Grimwell and thrown out of the Influencer program, I'm no longer subject to that NDA for any new tasty information I learn in the future. I acknowledge that I'm still obligated not to reveal things that were subject to the NDA while I was in the Influencer program, but I have no such obligation with respect to future information I obtain. Again, this lifts a great burden from me, and will no doubt result in many future problems for SOE.

I would read that NDA very carefully. I'm positive that it has no expiration date. This would mean that you are technically still under NDA even if you are no longer in the influencer program. Being ousted from the program only means that they are not going to freely tell you things that are confidential.

Being a large company, SoE is sure to have lawyers that write these things to prevent future as well as current information from being leaked. You may still be on their leash.

Laodaron · 03-12-2008, 08:16 PM

You're an idiot that can't read Stamen. He said the shit he was told while under the NDA still applies, but if someone breaks NDA to him later in the future, he's no longer held under NDA for that new information

Edwin Ahe · 03-12-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stamen

I would read that NDA very carefully. I'm positive that it has no expiration date. This would mean that you are technically still under NDA even if you are no longer in the influencer program. Being ousted from the program only means that they are not going to freely tell you things that are confidential.

Being a large company, SoE is sure to have lawyers that write these things to prevent future as well as current information from being leaked. You may still be on their leash.

I think you should read more carefull. LFG just said that he won`t post anything he got while under NDA. What he will post is something NEW, and this can`t be bound to NDA by any means.

Otis · 03-12-2008, 08:24 PM

Since LFG's the one in this conversation with a law degree, I'm going to assume he's read the NDA and understands exactly what it means.

Deson · 03-12-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LFG

1. I generally tried to keep on good terms with SOE by applying a positive spin on many negative things that were posted against SOE here. I was constantly being accused of "kissing ass" to SOE by many of our users because I was frequently defending SOE on this site. I'm now forever relieved of that burden, and I seriously hope nobody will ever think I'm kissing SOEs ass in the future. What they lost was my good will, and my occasional willingness to "help out" and "quiet" certain situations by helping hide their incompetence and problems. I've now been relieved of all obligations to support them in any way. This lifts a great burden from me personally, and will undoubtedly result in great problems for them in the future.

So you're really Rush Limbaugh?

If you were really doing what you said, is it fair to say you really were kissing SOE ass in some cases and also mean that you were being intellectually dishonest while trying to help them? I put a fair amount of stock in your word based on your sometimes crusader-ish/take no prisoners attitude(i.e. Calthine and Allakhazam) and your insider info so, since you're free of the burden now, mind sharing with us your real feelings on a few of those issues?

Uyaem · 03-12-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nuuk

You guys should just quit EQ2 and play WoW. It's a superior game with an awesome pvp system. There is a reason 10 million people play WoW. It's simply a better game.

It is a a game with simpler mechanics that seem to work (working as in scaling) and that are basically bug free. Not sure if that as a whole makes the game superior tbh, personally I like the potential of EQ2.

osibia · 03-12-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Krov

Speaking of 3rd party programs. Around the 2nd major ban of 5,000 accounts in the early start. Smeed (smut) stated they had a program that was 99 % effective in banning automated and 3rd party programs. He even went on to say sorry that like 3 people got banned on accident and gave them free play time. My question is if they have had this ability for so long why is it not used? I can even recall him saying that they would go out there way to use this program they developed to prevent plat farming and RMT

- Krov

not sure what smed was smoking when stating the accuracy of their anti 3rd party software, but i remember clearly what happend during t5 days, they tried to remove exploiters and their plat and ended up banning a shitload of completly legit guild mule toons (yes, that was prior to guild banks) as well. Simply because soe only looked at amount of plat owned by toons and then went like "that cant be honest, he got too much plat delete and perma ban acc". yeah, fucking accurate mechanisms they got.