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Originally Posted by Yggdrasil
On a final note, there are some people like myself and many others who do things to be team players that they may not like or necessarily want as individuals. While some people can toot their own horns about walking out at the first sign of a guild doing something that they don't like, that doesn't necessarily make them good team players. Part of being a team is sometimes doing the things that you don't like as an individual for the support and progression of the whole. While some can be commended for sticking to higher ethics and shouldn't be faulted for it, I think it's wrong to fault someone for sacrificing the things that they want for the good of the whole.
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I will agree that anyone who gets in beta to test will have some zones known at live. However who gets invited to beta?
Prior to astaroth being in NPU, he was in a guild called Aei Desis. He got hired in to SOE and asked all of our info so we could get into beta for KOS. This was a nice little perk, i admit, because I dont think anyone would argue that those in beta are people known by employees or someone who is a friend of a friend etc...
but its not rocket science to know that the guilds devs are in have the advantage here of getting practice in beta for the chance to be WW first.
but where do your ethics stop.
I know i saw seiryu in full relic gear 2 hours after KOS went live. Now how was that possible. I mean devs have never been known to copy anything from test server or betas before have they. Lets ask unrest guilds about that and a certain test server guild shall we.
on like page 110 or so someone asks why don't guk guilds get pissed off at all the crap NPU does with having spawn timers told to them for contested etc...
this is why,and from my own experience, A guild was pulling the commonlands avatar, and npu showed up. guild was the old mors mortis guild formed into one called forged by fury. Did they have a shot at killing it, probably not but here is what happened. Npu had a couple people there, and they were forming up their raid, so forged pulled it. NPU proceeded to shoot off fireworks (which at the time created huge lag spikes) and got some from both guilds to lag out.
next thing you know a gm shows up and tells forged that they are interfering with NPU's gameplay and several got banned for the day, a couple for bitching out the gm because it was the other way around, a few who claim they didnt do anything but try to pull the mob again when npu wasnt ready.
was that gm just hanging out there in commonlands or did npu's dev buddies ask them to interfere. I'm going with the latter. Npu has been known to "grief" a lot of people/guilds (especially when harla dar was a contested) for their own jollies. So most people on guk just say to hell with it , they have the employees in their guild it isnt worth getting banned or shit on by them and ruin your own gameplay.
so npu earns their reputation by sacrificing their ethics and morals for the benefit of their guild.
some of the things they get, i consider perks of having a gm in their guild, like beta invites. However, there is a line that they do cross time and time again, and this EQ2flames situation with SOE is just the thing to put them back in line with their ethics and morals if they have any left.
Npu is made up of great players, no doubt about it, so why do they need to cheat in order to remain number one WW first for everything. And by cheating i mean having strats of mobs emailed to them NOT in a beta, or overstepping their bounds by having fellow employees help them out whilst they are off the clock.
But they are not the only ones who take advantage of their connections, and shouldn't be solely thrown under the bus for this, however its hard to read ex members still sucking up to them, in hopes to keep those connections alive.
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