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03-18-2008, 02:28 PM
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Re: EQ2 Flames Consolidated Developer Information List
Massively.com article (a must read)
Lagorama.com article
updated with some news/blog links. If you have some more to add, let me know!
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03-18-2008, 02:32 PM
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Re: EQ2 Flames Consolidated Developer Information List
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Originally Posted by Calthine
And if I was the type to leak confidential information (and I'm not) I couldn't post anonymously, as Flames doesn't allow multiple logins from the same IP, and none of you would believe me if I did post it anonymously, as Anon posters are, according to many people here, scum of the earth.
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Learn how to use a proxy. And people would likely believe stuff if they were provided with evidence, such as pictures.
Just remember, it's only against the rules if you get caught. 
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03-18-2008, 02:34 PM
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Character: Kiana
Guild: Domini Artificium
Server: Nektulos
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Re: EQ2 Flames Consolidated Developer Information List
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Learn how to use a proxy. And people would likely believe stuff if they were provided with evidence, such as pictures.
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That was part of my above point. I'd never do any such thing. The spirit is as important as the letter. I have standards.
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03-18-2008, 02:36 PM
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I vomit words, cheapen orgasms, and everything offends me.
Character: Auroz
Guild: Vigilance
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Re: EQ2 Flames Consolidated Developer Information List
Grrrrr why can't websites get around websense =( /waits 4 hours (the second link worked, somehow they aren't labeled 'games' to the blocker humph)
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03-18-2008, 02:42 PM
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Character: Barrison Selmy
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Re: EQ2 Flames Consolidated Developer Information List
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Originally Posted by Calthine
That was part of my above point. I'd never do any such thing. The spirit is as important as the letter. I have standards.
You apparently do not.
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Ok. You have standards and I'll even commend you for it. Again I'll ask ya though. Does the nda you signed as part of this third forum prohibit simply saying how much activity goes on there and in regards to what? Not looking for specifics at all. We'd just like to know if it is any more valuable a resource than the other 2 forums.
You were the one to bring up the third forum so the nda can't prohibit at least talking about it or you would have already broken it. So let's talk about it. I'm sure we'll be treated to some screens from someone without your scruples. |
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03-18-2008, 03:06 PM
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Character: Otis
Guild: Retired
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Re: EQ2 Flames Consolidated Developer Information List
Scruples aside, Calthine also has to watch what side if the fense she's on, lest she suffer the same fate as LFG. Let's not kid ourselves here, there's more than a little self-preservation pervading her posts.
And that's ok, if she's bound by her moral values and legal agreements, and as such is unwilling/unable to extend the courtesy of full disclosure when debating one side or the other, I do not think its out of line for me to point it out.
Last edited by Otis; 03-18-2008 at 03:09 PM.
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03-18-2008, 03:10 PM
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Official Escape Goat of Najena
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Re: EQ2 Flames Consolidated Developer Information List
Well said.
Now fuck off, they're fighting.
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03-18-2008, 03:55 PM
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Character: Nightcap
Guild: Unguilded
Server: Nagafen
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Re: EQ2 Flames Consolidated Developer Information List
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Originally Posted by Vainamoinen
Um, no. But thanks for coming out. I do like how you use the term "bitch", because it really does sum up a lot of what I see. Nothing short of pre-menstrual bitching.
Being constructively critical is fantastic and it has demonstrated time and time again on these boards. The problem is, with the good you also get the bad and the very bad. Like those who will take a "critical" approach and spin it into how someone raises their children, or something like that. You know what I'm saying?
You want to be heard as a constructive source to generate positive and professional changes to a game, but then you'll have people turn around and fire off a volley of complete and utterly useless sputum. Sure this is the interwebZ and we can all act like we're bad-ass and sling the vulgarities around, but if you intend to create some "real world" change to a game, you have to play by their rules to an extent.
If you read the end-user agreement, SoE has no obligation whatsoever to improve their product. The fact that they can, and do, take feedback from the community and incorporate it into the game is not a right that we, as players, have acquired by purchasing the game and a subscription. "Do the changes help improve the product to a point where there is enough value-added to offset the resources required?", is likely the real question asked every time something is suggested.
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Holy fuck! Can you manage to write anything that couldn't simply be replaced by a picture of you with a picket fence jammed squarely up your ass?
Not sure what is worse, you jacking off in text or Calthine using thousands of words to say nothing...
Like it or not, these events were needed. Could things have happened differently? Well thats not an option is it?
There is some sad behaviors going on at SOE, from their questionably incompetent Community Relations team to Devs giving favors. This shit needs to be known. |
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03-18-2008, 04:00 PM
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Official Escape Goat of Najena
Server: Najena
Posts: 1,607
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Re: EQ2 Flames Consolidated Developer Information List
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Originally Posted by Starbuck
Not sure what is worse, you jacking off in text or Calthine using thousands of words to say nothing...
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You walking in on my jerk-off session, gobbling it all up and then complaining about the service. That's what's worse.
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03-18-2008, 04:19 PM
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Character: Emanji
Guild: retired
Server: Vietnam jungle
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Re: EQ2 Flames Consolidated Developer Information List
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Originally Posted by Snark
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As you can imagine, a forum called EQ2Flames wasn’t going to under-react to this…and they didn’t
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best quote of the day right there.
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