EQ2 Flames Consolidated Developer Information List - Page 133

Gage · 03-18-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Calthine

Further, as it's been pointed out in several places around the 'net, the Influencer program isn't about any one game.

LFG has already covered this. He had no interest in a program that wasn't about EQ2 or running fansites/forums. The influencer program is supposed to help SOE overall which is why the Influencer meeting at the last Fan Faire spent all their time wondering how to get old players back to SWG after SOE fucked that community with the NGE.

So you're here shouting and shouting that the Influencer program is seperate from the Summit/Fansite programs and isn't even about EQ2.

So then, what reason could Grimwell possibly have had to remove LFG/Niber from the fansite program (this is a fansite) and the Summit program (which he was a part of way before Flames)?

No answer? I figured not. The point is the Influencer program is full of SOE kiss asses. LFG isn't a kiss ass. Makes sense to not have him there, especially since its about shit he personally said he didn't give a fuck about (everything SOE owns that isn't EQ2).

Still doesn't lead any rationale as to why LFG/Niber was removed from the two programs that do involve EQ2 and from your multiple posts have nothing to do with the Influencer program.

Shouldn't you be on your site writing some crafting preview for 44 and kissing SOE ass so you can buy shit for your kids?

Idiom · 03-18-2008, 06:07 PM

I had some time to kill so I went to that Gregs Place and posted this comment:

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The fact that you have a dev making homophobic slurs is inexcusable, the fact that he remains employed by SOE is unforgivable imo. Not to mention his language skills could use a little help.

Handle: Aeralik
Real Name: Chris Kozak
Business Email: ckozak@soe.sony.com

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Originally Posted by Aeralik
sorry but if you want to increase your ad revenue at my expense with that gay poll then im done. I just wanted you to deal with one immature posted but this is fucking retarded and even more childish. keeping fucking people over at soe i see how it is and then you wonder why people hate your site there.
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Oh and about the "excessive negativity", I have seen posts in threads disappear, not the whole thread which is what you claim to have access to in the black hole, you post something that SOE doesn't want to hear, no matter how polite or civil and it gets removed from a thread and goes nowhere, you only see entire threads that are deleted, not individual posts.

But I am sure this post will be "disappeared" as well, it's SOP here as well as the official EQ2 forums isn't it?

It was removed of course and he has now disallowed comments, typical.

Calthine · 03-18-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaige

LFG has already covered this. He had no interest in a program that wasn't about EQ2 or running fansites/forums.

That would be his own self-admitted non-participation, then, wouldn't it. Which, as I recall, is why he was removed from the program. So why has everyone got their panties in a bunch because LFG was removed from a program that he wasn't participating in or even interested in participating in?

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Originally Posted by Gaige

So then, what reason could Grimwell possibly have had to remove LFG/Niber from the fansite program (this is a fansite) and the Summit program (which he was a part of way before Flames)?

Well, I'd never presume to speak for Grimwell. Oh, wait, I don't have to, he already spoke for himself and LFG posted it:

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At the very same time you have actively encouraged many ‘sensational’ issues to come to the attention of your community at EQ2Flames, even when those issues lacked merit. Additionally, you have abused your personal access to members of our development teams, with no regard to the harm it might cause them in the process.

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Originally Posted by Gaige

The point is the Influencer program is full of SOE kiss asses.

Again, you have no idea who all the Influencer participants are, so you're making suppositions on no data again.

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Originally Posted by Gaige

Shouldn't you be on your site writing some crafting preview for 44

No, that's a different site.

Gage · 03-18-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Calthine

Well, I'd never presume to speak for Grimwell. Oh, wait, I don't have to, he already spoke for himself and LFG posted it

I'm sure you can point out in Grimwell's email where he said he was removing LFG from the Summit/Fansite programs? Oh you can't?

Didn't you spend a lot of time last night and today explaining to all us non-kissasses that the programs are all very seperate?

Right.

So fine, remove LFG from the Influencer's program, he probably wouldn't have cared less, it doesn't explain however why he was removed from two programs that have shit to do with the Influencers program according to you.

Also I LOL @ lacked merit - everything LFG ever leaked was right. That pretty much is the opposite of lacking merit.

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Originally Posted by Calthine

Again, you have no idea who all the Influencer participants are, so you're making suppositions on no data again.

Brasse's picture, comic about the NDA and Grimwell's post at massively all point to you being full of shit.

We know the last summit was an Influencer's summit, we know Brasse attended, we know she signed a huge NDA...

Hmmmm....

Cuz · 03-18-2008, 06:26 PM

Aeralik is lucky to work at SOE. That would get you fired at many other companies.

Steveaux · 03-18-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaige

Shouldn't you be on your site writing some crafting preview for 44 and kissing SOE ass so you can buy shit for your kids?

Basically anyone that's part of the influencer program shouldn't post here? Is that what you are saying? If you are part of another website and might disagree then just fuck off eh?

I've always liked that flames pulls in folks from other sites that post here and give their feedback. Sounds as if you would prefer those folks didn't post here, especially if they disagree with you.

Barrison · 03-18-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Calthine

So why has everyone got their panties in a bunch because LFG was removed from a program that he wasn't participating in or even interested in participating in?

Because if it that site has about as much interaction as the other 2 sites that were posted then not participating in it is a cop out excuse at best and I think that the majority of us would like some real fucking answers on this one.

And since you came back I'll ask again. Does the nda you signed as part of this third forum prohibit simply saying how much activity goes on there and in regards to what? Not looking for specifics at all. We'd just like to know if it is any more valuable a resource than the other 2 forums.

You were the one to bring up the third forum so the nda can't prohibit at least talking about it or you would have already broken it. So let's talk about it. I'm sure we'll be treated to some screens from someone without your scruples.

And yes this is a relevant question. If this forum has as much interaction on it as either of the other 2 then using the non-participation excuse is bullshit and calls into question all of their other responses.

Gage · 03-18-2008, 06:30 PM

Since the Influencer program has nothing to do with EQ2 I don't give a fuck about their opinons.

Calthine · 03-18-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaige

Also I LOL @ lacked merit - everything LFG ever leaked was right. That pretty much is the opposite of lacking merit.

Everything??

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Originally Posted by LFG

I'm sure. Tamat will be in San Diego on Thursday having a final interview for the position just vacated by Blackguard.

http://www.eq2flames.com/newreply.ph...ewreply&p=9166

Calthine · 03-18-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Barrison

And since you came back I'll ask again. Does the nda you signed as part of this third forum prohibit simply saying how much activity goes on there and in regards to what? Not looking for specifics at all. We'd just like to know if it is any more valuable a resource than the other 2 forums.

Sorry, I wasn't ignoring you, I was thinking about it. I've decided that giving specifics is over the line for me.

I know that doesn't help me prove (or y'all disprove) anything, and I'm sure someone will spin it into "If the forums were worth anything she'd tell us!". But I'm going to take that risk because I'm not crossing that line.

Edit: I do believe that LFG said the topics discussed there were not of value to this community, hence his non-participation. Kinda like what Gaige posted above, but more polite.