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Old 03-19-2008, 12:01 PM  
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Actually I still use Zam all the time, they're actually very helpful.


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Old 03-19-2008, 12:02 PM  
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LFG quoted one of the devs when all this started that the game was more important than all this.
LFG made the statement that the game was more important than all of this, not the dev. Lots of people have misinterpreted it so far, but it was LFG stating that, not the developer. Though the quote was mildly confusing, so it is easy to see why people would get confused there.
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Old 03-19-2008, 12:08 PM  
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Flames lives up to its name this time but it's seems more like self immolation this time around.
One of my favorite quotes, especially applicable to the inept SOE staff giving us problems:

You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately ... Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!
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Old 03-19-2008, 12:18 PM  
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Actually I still use Zam all the time, they're actually very helpful.


Sincerely: The guy who still use a pager, netzero, and super VHS
I used Zam all the time for EQ1. During EQ2's early life it was either garbage or almost non-existant support - I can't remember which. I do know I found more info on the main boards or from guildmates / friends etc. I've heard it's improved now but it's rare I can't find what I need through other channels - so don't have a need to visit.

I have no idea what TTH does or what it's purpose is tbh. Nor warcry for that matter (remembered it's name!).
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Old 03-19-2008, 12:18 PM  
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It's a sad day for EQ2 period.

This publicity might force the only 2 raiding developers into retirement. Less feedback, less bug fixs, you thought raiding was bad now? Zoltaroth and Aeralik are responsible for most of the positive changes in the high-end raiding world. We're actually shooting ourselves in the foot by [showing how they revealed themselves] to the public.
Fixed that for ya, yer welcome.

Heaven fucking forbid someone hold them accountable for their own stupidity, no, it's the horrible player community who sat on that info for months and months, hoping the devs would, could, police themselves. And the PR staff made it painfully obvious that SOE as a whole has no intention of doing that.

I keep fucking saying this: you whiney bitches want to complain about "outing devs"? Complain to fucking astaroth. He outed himself and the rest of them by inviting NPU to suck his cock.

No, seriously, fuck you, complain to the man who really gave out this info. That's astaroth.
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Old 03-19-2008, 12:22 PM  
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I know I'm not lying.
No, of course you aren't lying, you call it looking through rose colored glasses don't you?

It's a distinction without a difference, you can deny all you want but the truth is that you have zero credibility, over the years you have been nothing but a lying, cheating manipulative C-word to anyone and everyone that doesn't agree with you. So why would now be any different?

You see lying as just another way of telling the truth "as you think it should be" not how it really is. So it's not really lying is it? It more of a version of the truth that you choose to believe regardless of actual events.

You prefer the lies you tell yourself so it's no wonder that you prefer others to believe them too, trouble is that no one that knows you is dumb enough to give you the benefit of the doubt.

In everything you do, internet or real life, including blowing cigarette smoke in your child's face while you nursed it but rationalizing it because it made you feel better about doing it, is just more of the same BS from you, never honest and always twisted.

So who do you think ANYONE with an ounce of common sense believes? Surely not you.
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Old 03-19-2008, 12:27 PM  
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LFG made the statement that the game was more important than all of this, not the dev. Lots of people have misinterpreted it so far, but it was LFG stating that, not the developer. Though the quote was mildly confusing, so it is easy to see why people would get confused there.
Ah my mistake. Doesn't really surprise me that it was LFG that made the statement rather than the dev.

edit: Just read the Massively article and Snark's comments toward the bottom. Great stuff.

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Old 03-19-2008, 12:31 PM  
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I wouldn't have my chicken foot if not for domino! I heard that domino is allowing crafters to craft trakanon drop-quality loot in an upcomming update. Any truth to this rumor?
Wouldn't surprise me with that dumb cunt.
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Old 03-19-2008, 12:38 PM  
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Two different SOE employees have echoed that the Game is more important than "This" (aka the drama). It is not a feeling owned solely by LFG.
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Old 03-19-2008, 01:03 PM  
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Right now it seems as though the flames are more important to most folks. How is driving off anyone that has anything positive/neutral to say about SOE doing the game any good?
I believe that to be a misconception. Those affiliated with SOE are getting flamed for their inappropriate behaviors and lack of service to their customers. Until they deal with these major problems openly and honestly, they will continue to be pressured by the community to do so (read: flamed).

No one is driving away the neutrals or pro-SOE advocates. The problems are occuring when we say SOE's shit stinks. Fansite affiliates trying to remain in favorable standing with SOE are responding with; "No, that's not shit, thats roses! You're nose just isn't calibrated correctly, please keep your nasal dysfunctions to yourselves so that we can continue to smell the roses."

Anyone refusing to acknowledge the shortcomings of the game deserves any flame they get on that subject. Opposing viewpoints, based upon my observation of and participation on this site, are always welcome here. You had just better fully articulate your arguement and have more than personal opinion when you are opposing facts.

Keeping the discussion focused and factual will do a lot for the game in the long run, whether it gets shit fixed, or puts the whole mess out of its misery.
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