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Old 03-21-2008, 12:34 PM  
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LFG, point taken. While I think it was strong enough with the "highly positive line", I also have to admit on reread it's more a greater good type positive as opposed to fluff.

And don't be angry at all. Sure it's a funny fuck you but given the traffic and audience of both Winwin's site and the official forums, you should be laughing at how the team just shot itself in the foot.
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If it wasn't going to come here, where should it have gone?
What I wrote to you was not so much a comment about the decision to use anyone to cover the new zone. My comments were more directed towards most of yours over the last few days. You congratulate Winter with a backhanded compliment and post time and again that this site is finished while these other fansites will get all of the information from Sony. You couldn't wish her well without taking a swipe at those people here.

She doesn't need people to defend her.

I am not beseeching you to be nice or anything, but that is why EQ2Players fails (because the community managers acted like you are in this case.) They can't focus on any of the doors they are opening (guide presence, the coming of a new zone) without closing some. They wanted to be free of this site yet still gain the exposure. Instead of making that site worth a damn (updating the content and resolving some of their delivery issues,) they chose to alienate us and reduce any potential traffic we could get by removing the ability to link pages on this site. (This still doesn't make eq2players.com any more viable as a source of information about their own game.)

I could care less who Sony or you decide to support, but mooning people here while kissing them doesn't make either of you appear reasonable or more appealing. Yeah this is EQ2Flames but you pretend to be above that, remember?

Let me put it this way: When you do your TTH stuff for Tabula Rasa, do you promote the game or just go on about how the competing games in its genre suck? Shining the spotlight on how dysfunctional this place is will not make Ten Ton Hammer or Allakazam any better.
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Nevermind. Glad I'm not in charge here.
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*tilts head*

I'm not sure I understand this. I'm not talking to most people, but referring to the 3 or 4 posters who were insulting Winter earlier in the thread. And I'm not sure how much more supportive I can be by stating I'm glad they gave this to a fansite instead of a network. I think it was a great job considering Winters available resources.

If it wasn't going to come here, where should it have gone?
Maybe a fansite who doesn't only get three viewers a month?
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Handle: Aeralik
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Snark, I'd suggest replacing "knowingly ignored them" with "knowingly took advantage of them to help his guild get their epics".

Just a suggestion, however.
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LFG, point taken. While I think it was strong enough with the "highly positive line", I also have to admit on reread it's more a greater good type positive as opposed to fluff.

And don't be angry at all. Sure it's a funny fuck you but given the traffic and audience of both Winwin's site and the official forums, you should be laughing at how the team just shot itself in the foot.
According to my scorecard, SOE has now shot itself in both feet and is in a wheelchair.
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According to my scorecard, SOE has now shot itself in both feet and is in a wheelchair.
I thought they were in the wheelchair sometime ago?

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