EQ2 Flames Consolidated Developer Information List - Page 175

Niber · 03-22-2008, 04:28 AM

Did anyone notice that that the email Zoltaroth sent was:

a. During beta.
b. During the San Diego wild fires when SoE was evacuated so Zoltaroth probably relied on someone else to test to prevent further delays.

Perhaps he's not the bad guy afterall.

Faabio · 03-22-2008, 04:30 AM

Pish-haw, valid information that sets light on the situation!?

Get out of here with that type of talk Niber~

Snark · 03-22-2008, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Niber

Did anyone notice that that the email Zoltaroth sent was:

a. During beta.
b. During the San Diego wild fires when SoE was evacuated so Zoltaroth probably relied on someone else to test to prevent further delays.

Perhaps he's not the bad guy afterall.

Further delays? You do realize this mob was changed to be killable a few weeks ago right?

Niber · 03-22-2008, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Snark

Further delays? You do realize this mob was changed to be killable a few weeks ago right?

That doesn't mean it didn't have a issue that would insta-crash servers, cause major corruptions, give people god mode, or something. QA obviously wasn't around, nor was Zoltaroth, so he sent the directive to someone he trusted to test it throughly. I'm obviously speculating but it was definitely during beta and the wildfire evacuation. I think that leaves the door open for it being less than nefarious.

Maybe someone from NPU knows.

razieh · 03-22-2008, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Niber

That doesn't mean it didn't have a issue that would insta-crash servers, cause major corruptions, give people god mode, or something. QA obviously wasn't around, nor was Zoltaroth, so he sent the directive to someone he trusted to test it throughly. I'm obviously speculating but it was definitely during beta and the wildfire evacuation. I think that leaves the door open for it being less than nefarious.

Maybe someone from NPU knows.

Considering members of NPU have flat out said those notes are made up and they never got them. If they agree with what you have said that only incriminates them even more.

Seiryu · 03-22-2008, 07:34 AM

Should i actually bother reading this? i stopped paying attention at like page 20 =(

Idiom · 03-22-2008, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by razieh

Considering members of NPU have flat out said those notes are made up and they never got them. If they agree with what you have said that only incriminates them even more.

I could be wrong but didn't someone post that SOE admitted that the email was true?

I have the misfortune to be on Guk and all you hear from NPU is that Snark is a liar and that he posted lies etc, Alix claims it isn't his email address in the email, they slam anyone who says anything but then out of the other side of their face they claim that it was all ok because <insert stupid rationalization here>.

It's really a joke that NPU has been shown to be the Professional Wrestling of raidiers, all fake, all planned, no surprise. Yet they compare themselves to other raiding guilds, that's like Hulk Hogan saying he can beat Joe Frasier in the REAL ring.... Maybe they could with a cheat sheet...... But not without, just like raiding.

Either way it's not an honest attempt at anything.

Fact is that they got where they are by cheating, we can never know if they could have made it without cheating because they can't turn back time and make a better choice, but for them to claim that it all isn't true or doesn't matter is the height of arrogance, no surprise there though.

I wanted to add one thing about the timing of that email and the fires in SD, unless they were the ones handling the firehoses and shovels then I suspect they had every opportunity to work from home on the game and didn't need NPU to do their work for them, there is simply no reason that they could not have continued work from a home computer or one with access to their network.

Dannin · 03-22-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Idiom

I could be wrong but didn't someone post that SOE admitted that the email was true?

I have the misfortune to be on Guk and all you hear from NPU is that Snark is a liar and that he posted lies etc, Alix claims it isn't his email address in the email, they slam anyone who says anything but then out of the other side of their face they claim that it was all ok because <insert stupid rationalization here>.

It's really a joke that NPU has been shown to be the Professional Wrestling of raidiers, all fake, all planned, no surprise. Yet they compare themselves to other raiding guilds, that's like Hulk Hogan saying he can beat Joe Frasier in the REAL ring.... Maybe they could with a cheat sheet...... But not without, just like raiding.

Either way it's not an honest attempt at anything.

Fact is that they got where they are by cheating, we can never know if they could have made it without cheating because they can't turn back time and make a better choice, but for them to claim that it all isn't true or doesn't matter is the height of arrogance, no surprise there though.

I wanted to add one thing about the timing of that email and the fires in SD, unless they were the ones handling the firehoses and shovels then I suspect they had every opportunity to work from home on the game and didn't need NPU to do their work for them, there is simply no reason that they could not have continued work from a home computer or one with access to their network.

Have you ever been at work or home when someone drives through saying you have 10 minutes or less to grab what you can before you have to be out of there? You are stupid as fuck if you seriously believe that anyone gives a fuck about their job when they are going to potentially lose their home. I highly doubt that any employee of SoE living in San Diego said Oh shit I better make sure I finish this content real quick before this fire comes up and lights me on fire. Get fucking real. I doubt you have ever had to deal with something like that. It is not fun waiting around to hear if you can go back to see if your home is there or it's burned down. Next time, you should think before you post stupid bullshit like that.

Dannin

Bandersnatch · 03-22-2008, 12:37 PM

RadarX: I didn't have the heart to tell you about this LFG, I'm sorry.

Weak.

2/10 (including +1 for spelling)

Illuminator · 03-22-2008, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Idiom

It's really a joke that NPU has been shown to be the Professional Wrestling of raidiers, all fake, all planned, no surprise. Yet they compare themselves to other raiding guilds, that's like Hulk Hogan saying he can beat Joe Frasier in the REAL ring.... Maybe they could with a cheat sheet...... But not without, just like raiding.

BWAHAHAHAHAAHHA
(best flame ever)

Ok folks, how about the contested spawn times, that's the next topic.