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Old 03-13-2008, 03:03 PM  
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Um that's not what I was saying at all but I'm not gonna spawn a couple pages going over it with you.
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Um that's not what I was saying at all but I'm not gonna spawn a couple pages going over it with you.
Basically what you said is you're gullible and actually believed the bullshit fyreflyte posted. It was pretty obvious that he was covering for whatever dev fucked up raiding itemization in the first place as the item was clearly intended to be exactly what it was when VP launched.

Take a look at the history of EQ2 and itemization as well as the non existant progression in this expansion and you'll realize how I can say that statement with the utmost confidence of it being 100% accurate.
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Old 03-13-2008, 03:17 PM  
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That's a fair analysis, thanks for pointing it out.
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It's much easier to say, "Oh, sorry folks, looks like the real effects on the loot never got patched in, that's not what was intended," rather than speak the truth, which would go more along the lines of:

"Oh sorry, we have literally NO IDEA how to make loot, so we make this POS and wait to see if people complain. If they start an uproar we pretend that something was simply not added/added incorrectly."

Every piece of broken shit they release, well most of it anyways, they use the lame excuse that something was forgot and will be patched in, rather than admit that they fucked up royally and in all fairness fail at itemization.
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I think that's a bit of an overreaction.. that item spawned the "Itemization" thread in Items which was getting really heated (and fyreflyte was participating in), its obvious this item was just missing the procs and stuff and could be hotfixed out. VP loot is just poorly designed, but it's not bugged loot.
Look at the before and after of the item though, it is completely different. More then just having the procs added. Same thing with the trak "fighter only" cloak that can now be used by scouts.

So it seems to me like it was more then an oops we forgot to attach the procs to this item, unless they forgot to attach int, and actually attached CA damage, and forgot to put scout on the cloak etc.
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Look at the before and after of the item though, it is completely different. More then just having the procs added. Same thing with the trak "fighter only" cloak that can now be used by scouts.

So it seems to me like it was more then an oops we forgot to attach the procs to this item, unless they forgot to attach int, and actually attached CA damage, and forgot to put scout on the cloak etc.
Pretty much sums up the devs' attitudes towards the raiding community.

They fuck up, then giggle about it behind closed curtains, and then lie to the public.
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I still find it absolutly amazing that Sony has posted no response to the issues presented this week, at all. Their stance of "ignore it and it will go away" is their usual lame shit.

Seriously, do they think people are fucking stupid?
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Seriously, do they think people are fucking stupid?
Yes. Eq2 Players pay $15 a month to play on test servers.
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15$ a month? is that how much a minimum sub is to eq2 in america?
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15$ a month? is that how much a minimum sub is to eq2 in america?
Yes, what do they charge in Great Britain?
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