Back at you, SOE - Page 24

LFG · 03-21-2008, 03:12 PM

Pants - I seriously didn't ever first see that email until last night, when I received it as a screenshot. I have not logged into anyone's account, even in this situation. Nothing I told you was untrue. Your name wasn't used in this at all.

More than one person on this site can say that I've previously requested their login information to check out a problem with their account, then asked them to change their pw afterwards.

Kesselia · 03-21-2008, 03:13 PM

Lord Pantz,

I know I mentioned your guild in one of my posts....and tbh we are going after Aerallik to hang him. None of us knew what use you made of that PM till you came on and said your piece. We are more concerned with what Aerallik and less with what you or SoN did atm...tho I'm sure someone will start a thread soon to flame your guild. Personally since I knew Manyak I've had nothing but highest regards for your guild. If you did indeed use the exploit then that is on your conscience and you will have to deal with the oncoming assault upon your guild that I'm sure some will join in with. I'm more interested in seeing Aerallik dealt with myself....good luck to you sir

Kess

Caswydian · 03-21-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kesselia

Cas,

How ethical is it if you know and can prove that a dev intentionally cheated in game by providing their guild with a raid mob exploit and posted clearly that he would be willing to look the other way if his guild chose to use the exploit? Come on you gotta be smart enough to see that withholding such information after everything else we've since learned about SOE is wrong. This company is full of blatantly corrupt individuals who need to be fired.

We don't know if this is actually an exploit. We don't know if Aeralik is on a position to look the other way.

If one is concerned about the integrity of the game, send the information to someone at SOE or Sony. While it may not get you the public response desired, it is more likely to get an actual result in terms of changes to dev practices (assuming there was any wrongoing - if there's no exploit, this whole point is moot).

Ultimately, only SOE can decide if there was an exploit and if Aeralik did anything improper. Making this public indicates that LFG is less interested in seeing a just resolution and more interested in creating scandal.

Thelounge · 03-21-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Pantz

lols. the first one is in. if you make a toon on my server ill give you a couple plat.

i always love reading shit people wouldnt dare say to my face. god bless the internet.

ps i love you too

I don't think you a cheater, and you are a huge fucking guy <3 but I still would say it to your face and just run a block or two...

Flaming Homo · 03-21-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Darammer

Nope, no implied privacy. LFG stated: "And they can and do read private PMs on the official forums. We do not have that functionality enabled on this site."

So no, he never IMPLIED you have privacy here, he pretty much said it outright.

There is no such thing as privacy on the interwebz, noob.

If we want to argue semantics, LFG said the functionality was not enabled, but didn't say anything about not enabling that functionality at a future date or that the functionality had not been enabled previously.

Darammer · 03-21-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

Well, technically he isn't reading his PMs through his own account. The reality is, if you are an administrator on your server. You can become ANYBODY you choose to be, you can do whatever the fuck you want. He said that we do not have the capability to read your PMs indirectly, imo. Now the way he did it was by directly reading the PMs. Logging in his account, which is a big difference, and would also require changing the password or some other method to be allowed to login.

Nice rationalization; do you actually believe it?

Yes, the letter of what he wrote is true, but not the spirit.

Snark · 03-21-2008, 03:14 PM

This isn't about SoN. I doubt anyone has ever had problems with that guild. This is about the integrity of the SOE Staff

Pinski · 03-21-2008, 03:14 PM

PS, everybody keeps saying LFG logged into Aeralik's account, no he did not. Niber, however, did.

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Originally Posted by LFG

Niber logged into his account here through admincp to see if there was any evidence we could secure against him

Learn to read.

Darammer · 03-21-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaming Homo

There is no such thing as privacy on the interwebz, noob.

I'm pretty sure I said that exact thing in the second post on this very thread. I'm not shocked at all; merely pointing out LFG's hypocrisy.

LFG · 03-21-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Darammer

Nope, no implied privacy. LFG stated: "And they can and do read private PMs on the official forums. We do not have that functionality enabled on this site."

So no, he never IMPLIED you have privacy here, he pretty much said it outright.

We don't have anything installed that allows you to go in and read people's email. The only way to do that is to physically log into a user's account. That is a far cry from having some secret app that allows an admin to browse and read user emails. We don't have anything like that on this site.

What I said was true to the best of my knowledge when I said it, and I didn't know about this screenshot when I said that.